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FAQ: Arena mode

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What is Arena Mode?

Arena Mode is a new major competitive mode for all games on Board Game Arena.

Playing Arena Mode, you meet opponents in a competitive spirit, and try to become the new world champion for each game!

How does it work?

Arena mode is seasons based.

A season lasts 3 months, so there are 4 Arena seasons each year.

At the end of a season, top players for each game will be the new BGA world champion (ex: Race for the Galaxy World Champion - 2019 Winter).

What if I do not care about competitive play?

Arena Mode is 100% optional. You can play on BGA using "Simple mode" and never care about it.

We created Arena Mode because playing "for fun" and playing "competitively" is not really the same thing. We want to regroup players who are playing "for fun" together, and players who are playing "competitively" together.

Before Arena Mode, it was unclear if a game was "competitive" or not because a lot of players care about their ELO ranking. With "Arena Mode" and "Simple mode", we want to create a place where you can focus on competition and rankings, and a place where you can just play games without caring about any "metagame".

What are the rules of Arena Mode?

Some Arena mode rules may change from one Season to another, so everything that we explain here may change in the future if we see that it doesn't work, if we want to try something different for a given season, and so on.

To access Arena Mode for a game, you first need to reach 100 ELO points. It gives you access to the lower Arena league (Bronze league). You start with 1 Arena point ("Bronze - 1").

When playing on Arena mode, you play each game with its competition configuration (see "What is the competition configuration?" question below). You cannot choose your opponents: a matchmaking algorithm is choosing your opponents for you.

When you win a game in Arena mode, you gain Arena points. You gain 3 Arena points when beating an opponent from the same league, 2 points when beating an opponent from league N-1, 1 point for beating an opponent from league N-2, and so on (and the same for higher leagues).

When you lose a game, you lose Arena points. However, you cannot go below 0 points.

(Note: If you play a 3+ game, the number of Arena points you get is divided by the number of opponents. So beating 5 opponents from the same league brings you 3 x 5 / 5 = 3 points).

When you reach 10 points, you are promoted to the upper league, with 1 point (ex: "Silver - 1"). You get a corresponding trophy, and you can no longer be relegated for this season.

Your goal is of course to reach the highest league before the end of the season :)

How many leagues there are?

It depends on the popularity of the game: the most popular a game is, the more leagues there are (and the most difficult it is to reach the top).


What is the "Elite league"?

The most active players for a given game (especially the best ones) may reach the most prestigious league: the Elite league.

In Elite league, the rules are different: each player has an Elite Arena Score (EAS), which works exactly like a standard "ELO rank". Based on this EAS, you get your world rank for this game (ex: 45th) and you can try to become the world champion :)

This EAS is hidden as long as you are playing in inferior leagues, and is revealed when you enter the Elite league. Basically, if you beat very good players during this season, your EAS will be high, and if you beat weak players your EAS will be low.

What happens at the end of the season?

For each game, the best players will receive the BGA world champion trophies for the season depending on their final rankings.

When a new season starts, everyone is relegated to a lower league (and EAS is reseted).

Why did you introduce this Arena mode?

At first, we wanted to make a clear distinction between competitive and non-competitive mode on BGA. This way, you can play "for fun" or "for competition". Before that, we had some mismatched situations like having beginners at game tables with opponents playing with a very competitive spirit.

But the most important reason is that the previous "competitive play" based on ELO ranking was not satisfactory. The best way to be world #1 with the previous system was to get a very important ELO (sometimes by choosing carefully our opponents) and then to stop playing. We wanted to change that, and to build a system where being the world champion is a real challenge, where you cannot avoid the best opponents and cannot avoid to play.

What is the "competition configuration"?

All players who are playing a game with Arena mode for a given season are playing with exactly the same configuration. This way, the whole Arena tournament is consistent (a debate + poll has been made here to reach this conclusion).

Example: for Kingdomino, the Arena configuration will be "2 players, with 7x7 grid and +10/+5 bonuses for Castle on center and full kingdom).

Choosing a specific configuration for each game is sometimes a difficult decision. The good news is that if the community is asking for a different configuration for a game, we can change it from one season to another, or make cycles between some configurations (ie: configuration A during Spring season, then configuration B during Summer season, and so on...).

How about the ELO ranking? Is it going to disappear?

No.

ELO ranking is the best and most accurate way to check the level of your opponent. This is an essential feature for an online boardgaming platform, so we won't remove it.

However, ELO is not a good choice to build BGA leaderboards, so leaderboards will be based on the Arena ladder.

Basically, with the new Arena mode, you should not care too much about your ELO anymore. Think about these examples:
_ National Soccer teams do not care too much about their "FIFA rank", while they do care about winning the World cup.
_ Best Chess players do not care too much about their ELO, while they do care about being FIDE World Champion.
_ ... and so on.

Will there be less players for the non-competitive games?

A large part of the work we did on the Arena mode was to make sure it won't happen.

To ensure this, we built "bridges" between Arena mode and Simple mode, so there will be no "hermetic" barrier between the Arena lobby and the Simple game lobby:
_ when you are in "Simple / Manual" mode, you are warned when players are waiting for opponents in Arena mode. This way you can join them.
_ when you are in "Simple / Automatic" mode, you can extend your current game request to Arena mode with just 1 click. If we cannot find you a game in "Simple game" mode, you'll be redirected to Arena.
_ when you are in "Arena" mode, you can also extend your current game request to "Simple game".

How about turn based games?

Arena mode is both for realtime and turn based games.

The only constraint for turn based games is that a turn based game must start and end during a given Arena season to be taken into account for this Arena season.
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

Post by wallaceprime »

It seems a little unfair to get zero Arena league points for winning against an opponent 3 levels below you (3 points standard minus 3 levels difference = 0 points). Half of the ten games I've won at diamond level have counted for nothing, which is very frustrating, especially since the current configuration for Carcassonne leads to much longer games. As a remedy to this, I would suggest either: awarding half points or a minimum of 1 point for a win, or block pairing competitors with a difference of 3 or more levels to avoid playing for nothing (or at least having an option in case you don't mind playing for just a couple of Elo points)
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

Post by chrochma »

i agree with wallaceprime.
Why should i play a game if losing takes 5 arena points and gain none winning?
winning should award at least 1 point.
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

Post by failedatquittingBGA2 »

I agree that it is silly that winning gains 0 points. The minimum point gain should be 1, not 0. But if BGA is insistent in keeping it this way, the default setting for arena mode should be that I never want to play with players far from my level. I should not have to go into every game to set my advanced settings to prevent pointless (for me at least) games.

Love arena mode, just hope we can make it a little better!
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

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Basically, if you beat very good players during this season, your EAS will be high, and if you beat weak players your EAS will be low.
How do you evalue strong or weak opponents? Is it based on EAS only (a bronze 1 is weak, a Elite top 10 is strong), or does it include some ELO ranking or game XP ?
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

Post by cosmosis »

failedatquittingBGA2 wrote: 19 April 2020, 12:18 I agree that it is silly that winning gains 0 points. The minimum point gain should be 1, not 0. But if BGA is insistent in keeping it this way, the default setting for arena mode should be that I never want to play with players far from my level. I should not have to go into every game to set my advanced settings to prevent pointless (for me at least) games.

Love arena mode, just hope we can make it a little better!
I want to vote for a fix here too. You shouldn't be assigned to a game where you have no hope of advancing even if you win.
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

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Chauff wrote: 20 April 2020, 19:12
Basically, if you beat very good players during this season, your EAS will be high, and if you beat weak players your EAS will be low.
How do you evalue strong or weak opponents? Is it based on EAS only (a bronze 1 is weak, a Elite top 10 is strong), or does it include some ELO ranking or game XP ?
Your EAS is entirely determined by the EAS of your opponents. Whether they are Bronze or Elite doesn't matter, and whether they were 700 or 100 Elo doesn't matter. All players start a season at 1500 EAS, so a great player playing their first arena game for the season is treated the same as a newbie who just started playing arena.
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

Post by Chauff »

OK thanks :)
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

Post by onyx puffin »

I was told in previous season to click opponents of my level using the gear. But that is not working and continue to have bronze opponents matched against me where winning against them does not give but maybe 1 star, and losing sinks 5 stars.
I still feel we should be able to leave a game if matched with opponent 2 or 3 levels below us.

Please fix this in some way. Either make the gear work, or add the feature where we must click 'accept' to play the game in arena mode like the other versions.
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Re: FAQ: Arena mode

Post by Giau »

not sure this is the right place. sorry in case.
won 2 games in Arena mode but got no points.


https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=77607717
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=77529089

bug?
or am I missing something?

thanks

EDIT: sorry, now read messages above... and realized that the system is designed to give 0 points in case opponents are 3 levels below.
Sorry but IMO it has little sense. why play to not gain, especially in an arena mode :? and especially when you can't choose your opponent level.

I'd suggest to review this. thanks
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