Are solvers cheating?

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JeremyMaahs
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Are solvers cheating?

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I like to review my lost games against a solver to see where I could have played different. Today, I played against a player who upon review played every move perfectly. As I looked over several of their other games, they were playing those with optimal moves every time. They were no doubt using a solver. So I went to report them, but there is no option to report someone for using a solver.

Is it not against the rules here?
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Jellby
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If you code a solver yourself, would that count as cheating?
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ufm
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Re: Are solvers cheating?

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Jellby wrote: 27 July 2021, 17:58 If you code a solver yourself, would that count as cheating?
Yes, any script or database counts as 'an external assistance'.
For example, you cannot search through an opening book during a tournament game.
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ahrnge
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Re: Are solvers cheating?

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I noticed recently that there are no ranks for chess, but rather a link to an explanation that games that are solved or have readily available AI are unsuitable for competitive or ranked play on this platform.

Why is there rank for connect four, when it is a solved game with easily available database assistance?
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dschingis27
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ahrnge wrote: 06 August 2022, 02:07 Why is there rank for connect four, when it is a solved game with easily available database assistance?
The current Arena setting is a 10x10 board, which I don't think is solved or at least you won't find solvers/helpers easily. So for Connect Four, the issue was circumvented.
0dmtr0
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It is cheating not only that but absolutely annoying as well. it should be banned. this is for halfwits only.
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SluggerBaloney
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Re: Are solvers cheating?

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JeremyMaahs wrote: 22 July 2021, 23:14 I like to review my lost games against a solver to see where I could have played different. Today, I played against a player who upon review played every move perfectly. As I looked over several of their other games, they were playing those with optimal moves every time. They were no doubt using a solver. So I went to report them, but there is no option to report someone for using a solver.

Is it not against the rules here?
The vast majority of the top levels of the game on here cheat with a solver. It;s say to assume that everyone with a rating > 300 is cheating. Only run 10x10 games, and they won;t play those, they will pop in, see they cant cheat, and leave
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Han Shot First
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I have over 500 elo at connect 4 and do not use a solver. However, I did spend a year studying connect 4 game theory as a project at university. :D
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