Tichu players who cheat by privately communicating during play

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NeanderthalMan
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Re: Tichu players who cheat by privately communicating during play

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BangguZzang & silvtur Another pair that is clearly communicating privately to coordinate passing to each other. Just a selection of their games:

#324787186
#009 BangguZzang breaks 789TJ straight to pass 8 for quad bomb.
#078 BangguZzang passes K for trips; silvtur has Tichu hand but passes Phx for gap in M2345-89 straight.
#126 BangguZzang passes Q for quad bomb; silvtur passed Dog but has no power cards.
#216 BangguZzang passes 8 for gap in four consecutive pairs 66778-99.

#324679134
#009 BangguZzang passes 9 for three consecutive pairs; silvtur passes 3 for gap in M2-4567 straight.
#079 BangguZzang passes 6 and 8 to opponents but 4 to silvtur for quad bomb; silvtur passes J for consec pairs.
#135 BangguZzang passes Q for gap in TJ-KA straight; silvtur passes 5 for quad bomb.
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Re: Tichu players who cheat by privately communicating during play

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This is evidently a few real life friends who play against each other frequently but partner up against strangers on occasion and resort to privately coordinating passes to ensure wins and make low probability Grand Tichu calls successful.

SimeCan & ymm77

2023/02/20 #342671670 vs klaus2010 & dodam0801
  • #009 Neither can significantly improve the other’s hand and exchange 9 and Phoenix.
  • #092 ymm77 has spare 3,7,9 but breaks 3456789T straight to pass 6 for gap in 345-78 straight, setting up SimeCan’s Tichu. SimeCan passes J for gap in 789T-Q straight.
  • #181 ymm77 passes J for gap in 9T-QK straight. SimeCan passes K for pair.
  • #232 ymm77 passes 7 for gap in 456-89TJQ straight; SimeCan passes A for pair.
  • #287 ymm77 passes 8 for QUAD BOMB; SimeCan passes 6 for trips.

SimeCan & lim1007

2022/12/23 #329161207 vs Heavenbird999 & marsqian
  • #009 SimeCan passes Dog 3 to opponents and 2 to partner for trips; lim1007 passes K for trips.
  • #067 SimeCan passes 4 for trips; lim1007 passes Phoenix.
  • #141 lim1007 passes 9 7 to opponents and breaks triplet 666 to pass black 6 to partner for gap in black 345-7 FLUSH BOMB; SimeCan has no options and passes spare 7.
  • #204 SimeCan passes 8 3 to opponents and 4 to partner for trips; lim1007 has no options and passes spare 6.
2022/12/23 #329151255 vs kitmo & namjals2
  • #009 SimeCan bets passes 10 2 to opponents and 6 to partner for trips; lim1007 passes Dragon.
  • #082 SimeCan passes 8 for gap in 567-9 straight; lim1007 passes 4 for trips.
  • #157 Neither can improve the other’s hand so pass Phoenix to the best hand and 3 to the worst.
  • #211 Down -225 to 325, SimeCan bets Grand Tichu with 3455JKKA and passes Dog; lim1007 passes 7 for no benefit.
  • #306 Neither can materially impact the other’s hand so pass Phoenix to the best hand and spare 6 to the worst.
  • #370 SimeCan calls Tichu before pass and gives 8 for pair; limt1007 notably keeps Dragon with no other power cards and passes 9 to SimeCan for QUAD BOMB.
  • #441 SimeCan breaks TJQKA straight to pass T for trips; lim1007 passes K for QQ-K consecutive pairs.
  • #514 Down 215 to 485, SimeCan calls Grand Tichu and passes 6 to lim1007 for QUAD BOMB; lim1007 keeps high card K and passes red 10 for three consecutive pairs 88-99-T and possible flush bomb draw with red 89-J. When one opponent goes out first, lim1007 abandons the game, possibly out of frustration and/or to prevent opponents from gaining the total earned ELO.
2022/12/23 #329152241 vs Médéric2 & thursdayevening
  • #009 SimeCan passes 8 6 to opponents but 3 to lim1007 for gap in M2-4567 straight; lim1007 passes Dog.
  • #090 SimeCan calls Tichu and passes J for gap in 6789T-QK straight; lim1007 keeps Dragon and passes A, knowing that SimeCan has 223344QQKKA and sets up successful Tichu and Double Victory for 300 points.
  • #149 SimeCan passes 6 3 to opponents and black 5 to lim1007 for gap in 34-678 FLUSH BOMB; lim1007 passes 8 to complete 8-99 consecutive pairs.
  • #223 Neither have options to optimize the other but lim1007 passes J for trips; SimeCan passes Q for pair.

SimeCan & Pawn4did

2022/12/18 #327628755 vs farzi2 & remmick
  • #009 SimeCan passes 3 to Pawn4did to complete four consecutive pairs 223-4455; Pawn4did passes K for three consecutive pairs JJQQ-K.
  • #082 Pawn4did makes a Grand Tichu call with H4999JQA, knowing SimeCan has P226889J, i.e., the 9 to make a QUAD BOMB. As expected, SimeCan keeps Dragon, Phoenix, and Ace, and passed 9 for QUAD BOMB.
  • #153 Pawn4did against calls Grand Tichu with DH358TJA and passes J for gap in 23456789T-Q straight; SimeCan passes Phoenix since no way to create a bomb.
  • #231 Pawn4did calls a third Grand Tichu with and passes 7 to complete three consecutive pairs, 5566-7. SimeCan passes Phoenix. The Grand is successful and they get a Double Victory for the win.
2022/12/07 #324390602 vs JEONUS & SpicyHolic
  • #009 SimeCan passes black 4 for gap in 3-567 FLUSH BOMB; Pawn4did has no options and passes spare 6.
  • #081 Pawn4did passes 9 Dog to opponents and 6 to SimeCan for QUAD BOMB; SimeCan passes A given no other options.
  • #161 Pawn4did passes 9 for QUAD BOMB; SimeCan passes K for pair.
  • #237 Pawn3did calls Grand Tichu with 669TJJAA. SimeCan does not pass Phoenix or K high card but instead red 8 for gap in 567-9T FLUSH BOMB. Pawn3did passes Q with no other options.
  • #313 Pawn4did passes Q for trips; SimeCan passes T to complete T-JJ consecutive pairs.
  • #376 With few options, SimeCan passes 7 and Pawn4did passes Q for pairs.
2022/12/07 #324096825 vs xJMPx & tsirp
  • #009 SimeCan passes 7 for 23456- straight; Pawn4did passes T for trips.
  • #086 With no options, they swap K and A.
  • #180 SimeCan passes 8 4 to opponents but 2 to SimeCan for trips; Pawn4did passes K for consecutive pairs.
  • #256 SimeCan passes 6 4 to opponents and against 2 to SimeCan for trips, which results in a QUAD BOMB when the fourth 2 is passed by an opponent; Pawn4did passes 9 for consecutive pairs.
  • #321 SimeCan calls Tichu before the pass yet Pawn4did keeps Dragon and passes K for QUAD BOMB; SimeCan passes Dog.
  • #399 Pawn4did passes 7 for QUAD BOMB; SimeCan passes A for QUAD BOMB.
  • #480 Pawn4did passes Mahjong Dog to opponents and 4 to SimeCan for QUAD BOMB; SimeCan passes 8 7 to opponents and 2 to Pawn4did for trips which results in another QUAD BOMB when the fourth 2 is again passed by an opponent.
  • #548 SimeCan passes T for QUAD BOMB; Pawn4did passes red 4 for three consecutive pairs 33-455.
  • #625 Pawn4did calls Grand but SimeCan keeps solo A and passes A to complete three consecutive pairs TTJJ-Q. Pawn4did passes 8 for trips.
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Re: Tichu players who cheat by privately communicating during play

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Jonnyboy12534 & Raptor23668

2023/01/29 #341509046 vs eribb36 & Purple board
  • #009 With limited options, Raptor23668 passes Q for pair; Jonnyboy12534 passes Mahjong to Raptor who has 345-789TJ and picks up a 2 from an opponent.
  • #076 Jonnyboy passes T for QUAD BOMB; Raptor has limited options and passes 5 for no benefit.
  • #166 Raptor passes 9 for gap in 78-TJQKA straight; Johnnyboy passes Dragon.
  • #225 Johnnyboy passes 8 for 34567-9 straight; Raptor passes Dragon.
  • #294 The players swap Dog and 2 but had no means to materially improve the other’s hand.
  • #374 Johnnyboy passes 6 for trips; Raptor passes K for trips.
  • #458 No options: Raptor passes Q; Johnnyboy passes A.
  • #544 Raptor passes Mahjong to add to -23456789 straight; Johnnyboy passes 5 for -6789TJQKA straight.
  • #597 Johnnyboy passes 9 for gap in 45678-TJ straight; Raptor passes T for pair.
  • #663 Johnnyboy passes 9 for consecutive pairs; Raptor passes A for trips.
2023/01/29 #341491648 vs astropurpurea & grreapsphos
  • #009 Raptor23668 passes Dog; Jonnyboy12534 passes A for pair.
  • #089 Jonnyboy doesn’t pass spare J but breaks 89TJQ straight to pass 8 for QUAD BOMB; Raptor passes 7 for 23456- straight.
  • #153 No options, Raptor passes J for pair; Jonnyboy passes Mahjong.
  • #223 Jonnyboy passes 4 for QUAD BOMB; Raptor passes A for trips.
2023/01/28 #341099962 vs WelcometoTPC & leegyubin
  • #009 Jonnyboy12534 passes 9 for gap in 345678-TJQKA straight; Raptor23668 forgoes the opportunity to break straight and pass J for quad bomb, instead passes Dragon.
  • #085 This hand Raptor goes for it, passing T 9 to opponents and breaking 45789TJQ straight to pass 7 to Jonnyboy for QUAD BOMB. Alternatively, Raptor could have passed the J for flush bomb. Jonnyboy passes K for gap in 89TJQ-A straight.
  • #175 Raptor is dealt a flush bomb and passes A to Jonnyboy for pair who passes Dragon.
  • #239 Jonnyboy passes J for gap in T-QKA straight; Raptor has no options and passes A.
  • #320 Jonnyboy passes J 5 to opponents but green 4 to Raptor to complete -5678 FLUSH BOMB; Raptor passes 8 for gap in M234567-9 straight.
  • #384 Raptor passes 6 4 to opponents and 4 to Jonnyboy for gap in four consecutive pairs 4-556677; Jonnyboy passes J for pair.
  • #465 Jonnyboy passes 6 breaks pair to pass 6 for gap in 2345-78 straight; Raptor passes A.
2023/01/27 #340908205 vs Blueboo & Reigam
  • #009 Jonnyboy12534 passes 5 for QUAD BOMB; Raptor23668 passes 2 for trips.
  • #099 Raptor23668 passes K for trips; Jonnyboy passes 9 for four consecutive pairs 9-TTJJQQ.
  • #172 Jonnyboy passes 9 for gap in straight 345P78-TJ; Raptor passes Dog.
  • #233 Raptor passes green T to add to 56789- FLUSH BOMB; Jonnyboy passes 7 7 to opponents but 2 to Raptor, perhaps to help complete the M-34- straight possibility.
  • #303 Raptor passes 6 for gap in 45-789TJQKA straight (or pair of straights); Jonnyboy passes A for trips.
  • #352 Raptor passes K for trips; Jonnyboy passes Phoenix.
  • #429 Jonnyboy passes 5 3 to opponents but 4 to Raptor for gap in M23-56789TJQ straight; Raptor has no options and passes K from top of straight for no benefit.
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Re: Tichu players who cheat by privately communicating during play

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Nice to see you being active here again :) havent played lately myself, but pretty sure the cheating didnt get less…
Your last post has a small typo, linking ymm again instead of raptor
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aesche wrote: 04 February 2023, 13:50 Nice to see you being active here again :) havent played lately myself, but pretty sure the cheating didnt get less…
Your last post has a small typo, linking ymm again instead of raptor
Fixed, thanks!

There seems to be less cheating to me but perhaps that's because there are fewer players overall.
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