People still cheating even on larger board size

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SluggerBaloney
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People still cheating even on larger board size

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I've been running into a rash of people using the 6x7 solver, even on the 10x10 board. They just input the moves until you get beyond the solvers board size and hope the solver beats you before then

Example:

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Just an FYI to watch out for. This game is rampant with cheaters.
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RicardoRix
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Re: People still cheating even on larger board size

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doesn't look like a sequence to hard to remember.
Also is it just not optimal play? There's not that many choices in this game.
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Re: People still cheating even on larger board size

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RicardoRix wrote: 12 October 2022, 21:39 doesn't look like a sequence to hard to remember.
Also is it just not optimal play? There's not that many choices in this game.

Developer does the analysis and discovers solvers being used
Developer says the majority of players with ELO > 500 match the solver 100%
I play a player with an ELO > 500 and his moves match the solver 100%
You think nothing is going on

Remind me to look you up next time I have a used car to sell.
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RicardoRix
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Re: People still cheating even on larger board size

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I am commenting on this particular example.

Just because some people cheat, doesn't mean that everyone cheats all the time.
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SluggerBaloney
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Re: People still cheating even on larger board size

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Another cheater

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ufm
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Re: People still cheating even on larger board size

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You should enable opening rules first and play unconventional openings if you think so.
After all, normal mode rank itself is prone to cheat obviously.
Hence Arena mode is forcing swap rule and non-6x7 boards.
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SluggerBaloney
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Re: People still cheating even on larger board size

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Playing "unconventional openings" just lets the solver beat you faster

The game is compromised and if BGA wants to keep it on the site they should add a warning to it
Ceaseless
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Re: People still cheating even on larger board size

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Weird thread. It's a bit old, but the most recent. I see posts about a solver, yet all that is shown is pictures of connect four boards on poorly played games with no demonstration that a solver is even involve in determining what moves went in or not. The lack of quality in the games give little credibility to the idea that one was used.

Anyways, from what I've seen these days, I haven't run into many, if any, cheaters even in 6x7 games. When I review my games, I often see one or more errors emerge, whether on one side or both, mistakes unpunished, etc. As for bigger board sizes, a solver doesn't seem like it would be very good. The expanded moves make it easy to go beyond the solver, and zugzwang is the primary win condition of Connect Four, which a a board that changes certain properties, such as whether there is an even or odd number of slots in a column, or whether there's a center column, will mess with how plays work.
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Re: People still cheating even on larger board size

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I honestly had no idea people do this. It's sad we can't just have people who play the game normally and work to get the skills to win.

That being said. I have been playing this game for a long time and have never cheated once. I have elo > 500 and WAS #10 in Ranked. Most of the boards that you've showed as examples just look like fairly normal games. There aren't a ton of options so a good player will just know how to combat most strategies even if a solver is giving it to them.

Even with cheaters I haven't had a problem enjoying the game and winning.
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