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Alcidas
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Victory Conditions

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Could anyone please direct me to where I can find out the Victory Conditions for the main event till 194?

I am playing as both Axis and Allies on two different games, but am not sure what the exact victory conditions would be. So far, am just playing historically.
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MarkDey
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Re: Victory Conditions

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The Rulebook has a great note about this:

"1.1.1 Objective
Have fun playing. After that, achieve the victory conditions as set forth in the scenario being played."

The victory conditions for each scenario can be found in the Playbook which is available here:
https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/2005 ... ving-rules

For the Main Event Scenario, it says
"Victory Conditions:
The Allied factions win if Germany is conquered. If Germany is not conquered by the end of the game, the Allied factions win if France was never conquered and the USSR was never collapsed.
The Axis faction wins if the Allied factions do not win. Germany has to avoid being conquered and the Axis must have taken down at least France or the USSR."
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Re: Victory Conditions

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MarkDey wrote: 10 March 2023, 15:17 The Rulebook has a great note about this:

"1.1.1 Objective
Have fun playing. After that, achieve the victory conditions as set forth in the scenario being played."

That's a terrible note. It reinforces an entirely false understanding why people play board games or how they work as you can see immediately by imagining how miserable everybody would be at a Chess tournament if that was the official rule.

A word of advice to the original poster, Alcidas. Everything comes down to May 1945 (or 44 or 46 if you play a short or long opening). If the Allies conquer Germany by that point they win, if not they lose. That means the Germans can be down to just a handful of units besieged on all sides in Berlin and still win.
However, it is useful to have some intermediary goals in the game, as its a long game. As you are playing a historic opening in both games the key moment will come in 1941/2 when the Axis invade Russia. If the USSR survives until the beginning of 1943 the Western Allies will be in a very strong position, if they are collapsed then the Allies can still win but it gets much harder. For the Western forces a similar thing applies to Africa; the Western forces objective is to hold on to a position in Africa so that in 1943 they can begin to counterattack. Again success gives strong positions for the Allies, failure weak ones. But if these are your first games any mid-game position will be winnable or losable for you.

There is a lot of theory (for a hex and counter game) and you could start by learning about the openings (slightly dated by recent rules changes intended to eliminate the more gamey play in the Long opening), https://youtu.be/jpSFcjEicWY
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Re: Victory Conditions

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Thanks guys! I had the first half of the rules but didn't get the scenario booklet till now.

So nice, as Germany, I just have to avoid getting crushed.
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Re: Victory Conditions

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RobertBr wrote: 10 March 2023, 16:08
MarkDey wrote: 10 March 2023, 15:17 The Rulebook has a great note about this:

"1.1.1 Objective
Have fun playing. After that, achieve the victory conditions as set forth in the scenario being played."
That's a terrible note. It reinforces an entirely false understanding why people play board games or how they work as you can see immediately by imagining how miserable everybody would be at a Chess tournament if that was the official rule.
Your arrogance in assuming that you speak for why everyone plays board games is only matched by the inaccuracy of your assessment.
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Re: Victory Conditions

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RobertBr wrote: 10 March 2023, 16:08


There is a lot of theory (for a hex and counter game) and you could start by learning about the openings (slightly dated by recent rules changes intended to eliminate the more gamey play in the Long opening), https://youtu.be/jpSFcjEicWY
Great video and thanks for sharing it. Have subscribed to your You Tube channel.

Could you please also post a link to the one about invading Denmark in bad weather?

Thanks
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