Just been thinking it would be nice to have arena split between real time and turn based games. Not something that is limited to Patchwork of course as other games could have this too. To me, real time and turn based games are very different. Turn based games you could crunch the moves and numbers for hours if you wanted to and had enough time. I’m exclusively a real time player and I’ve noticed that most (maybe all?) of the Patchwork arena champions are turn based players who get like 50 games going at once. I suppose that has its own drawbacks of your attention being split so many different ways. In general it seems like turn based players will always win out if you are dedicated enough due to a much longer time to plan and think moves. Having things separated seems to make sense to me since they are almost 2 different games. Having played online poker a lot, it’s kind of the difference between turbo games vs regular games. They are similar but different. I’m guessing this won’t happen but it would be nice.
Separate real time and turn based arena champions
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Re: Separate real time and turn based arena champions
I agree. It is the same that happens in chess websites, where each speed category (Classical, Rapid, Blitz, Bullet) has different ELO and thus rankings.
I think in BGA there may be an issue of number of games/players, though. Patchwork is probably fine, but other games with a lower player base would probably struggle to form meaningful rankings if the number of games played are too low.
I think in BGA there may be an issue of number of games/players, though. Patchwork is probably fine, but other games with a lower player base would probably struggle to form meaningful rankings if the number of games played are too low.
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Re: Separate real time and turn based arena champions
Post by RookworstWithoutR »
Completely agree! Had written a bigger post on the topic, but it just dissappeared lol.
Indeed just like chess, thinking time matters a lot in this game. Don't play RT if you want to become the Arena champion, that's pretty much the advice. RT Results is inherently a bit more random. The game is quite deep and lots of stuff to take into consideration. Even good players will miss fairly obvious stuff sometime (but less than mediocre skilled players).
Dont play RT if you want to win Arena. Or get a high ELO. The ELO rankings are partially dominated by good players, but not the best, that only plqy against 200-300 points lower ranked players.
Tournaments are the best indication for player skill IMO. Still want to run Real Life tournaments, those are barely non existing but fun I guess
Indeed just like chess, thinking time matters a lot in this game. Don't play RT if you want to become the Arena champion, that's pretty much the advice. RT Results is inherently a bit more random. The game is quite deep and lots of stuff to take into consideration. Even good players will miss fairly obvious stuff sometime (but less than mediocre skilled players).
Dont play RT if you want to win Arena. Or get a high ELO. The ELO rankings are partially dominated by good players, but not the best, that only plqy against 200-300 points lower ranked players.
Tournaments are the best indication for player skill IMO. Still want to run Real Life tournaments, those are barely non existing but fun I guess
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- ↳ Battleships Pencil & Paper
- ↳ Belladone Bluff
- ↳ Bids
- ↳ Block Arena
- ↳ Blooms
- ↳ Blot
- ↳ Botanicus
- ↳ Canasta
- ↳ Cannonades
- ↳ Carcassonne
- ↳ Caïrn
- ↳ Cheez-Tricks
- ↳ Chemical Overload
- ↳ Circle Of Life: on the Savannah
- ↳ Claim
- ↳ Coins
- ↳ Coloretto
- ↳ Cookie Addict!
- ↳ Cosmoctopus
- ↳ Crisps
- ↳ Cucumber
- ↳ DVONN
- ↳ Detective Poker
- ↳ Dicy Cards
- ↳ Dingo's Dreams
- ↳ DinoGenics
- ↳ Dobro
- ↳ Draft Cider
- ↳ Dragon Keeper, The Dungeon
- ↳ Durak
- ↳ EKONOS
- ↳ Elawa
- ↳ Enemy Anemone
- ↳ Eriantys
- ↳ Eternitium
- ↳ Exploding Kittens
- ↳ Expressions
- ↳ Festi’vibes
- ↳ Fibonachos
- ↳ Fight the Landlord
- ↳ Finity
- ↳ Five Three Five
- ↳ Flume
- ↳ For-Ex
- ↳ Four Gardens
- ↳ Garden Nation
- ↳ Get on Board: Paris & Roma
- ↳ Get the MacGuffin
- ↳ Go_sandboxversion
- ↳ GoldnCrash
- ↳ Grove
- ↳ Grund
- ↳ Guile
- ↳ Hachihachi
- ↳ Hadron
- ↳ Hawaiian Hanafuda
- ↳ Heckin Hounds
- ↳ Herd
- ↳ Herooj
- ↳ Hypnosia
- ↳ Ice and the Sky
- ↳ Inori
- ↳ Isaac
- ↳ Khiva
- ↳ Khronos
- ↳ Kinapa
- ↳ Kings in the Corner
- ↳ Kmakici Family's greatest teatime
- ↳ Kraken Up
- ↳ Lewis & Clark
- ↳ Logger
- ↳ Ludo
- ↳ Lunar
- ↳ Maatatahay
- ↳ Masters of Renaissance: Lorenzo il Magnifico – The Card Game
- ↳ Mattock
- ↳ Meadow
- ↳ Mercado de Lisboa
- ↳ Mighty
- ↳ Minhwatu
- ↳ Minnesota Whist
- ↳ Mod Ten
- ↳ Monster Factory
- ↳ Mutant Crops
- ↳ My Great Game
- ↳ Mü
- ↳ Nap
- ↳ Narabi
- ↳ Nylon-ppong
- ↳ ONE
- ↳ Onda
- ↳ Open Season
- ↳ Park Life
- ↳ Penny Press
- ↳ Pescado Novo
- ↳ Piepmatz
- ↳ Pier 18
- ↳ Poker Dice
- ↳ Pook
- ↳ Power Vacuum
- ↳ Puerto Rico
- ↳ Qu4to
- ↳ Quinque
- ↳ Quintus
- ↳ Race for the Galaxy
- ↳ Redstone
- ↳ Reflections in the Looking Glass
- ↳ Resolve
- ↳ Roppyakken
- ↳ Safari Witness
- ↳ Sail
- ↳ Sasaki
- ↳ Scriptoria
- ↳ Seven Knights Bewitched
- ↳ Sheep Boom Bah
- ↳ Sobek 2 players
- ↳ Soluna
- ↳ Spring Cleaning
- ↳ Squadro
- ↳ Stonks
- ↳ Tapas
- ↳ The Battle for Hill 218
- ↳ The Gnomes of Zavandor
- ↳ The Great American Fox Hunt
- ↳ The Great Split
- ↳ The Lady and the Tiger (Doors)
- ↳ The Last
- ↳ The Nine Domains
- ↳ Tholos
- ↳ Thrive
- ↳ Tien Len
- ↳ Tikal
- ↳ Tiny Farms
- ↳ Toepen
- ↳ Trellis
- ↳ Treos
- ↳ TriATri
- ↳ Troggu
- ↳ Tuned
- ↳ Twin Palms
- ↳ Two-Ten-Jack
- ↳ Vault A Den of Thieves
- ↳ Word Traveler
- ↳ Xxung
- ↳ Ynaros Fallin
- ↳ Yoxii
- ↳ Zefiria
- ↳ Zookeepers
- ↳ nanatoridori
- ↳ Écarté