ok I give up, what's the deal with forfeiting

[KBishop]

I have had games that were a statistical loss and hit the forfeit flag. My opponent either accepts or declines. Twice now I've had people decline my forfeit. That forced me to figure out how to use the down vote button to hopefully avoid them.

BUT I've had games where I was given the option to accept a forfeit and at other times it just popped up that my opponent conceded.

so how do I concede without my opponent having the option to reject?

[Jellby]

First, the game progress needs to be 50% or higher. Then use main game menu (top right, three lines or "hamburger" icon) and choose concede (not quit).

[Vandaley]

Forfeit is for point games where you can give your opponent points but continue playing a new game. They can decline the forfeit, esp if you forfeit a game but not a gammon and they think they can get a gammon. Concede is where you concede the entire match, that one cannot be declined.

[Boudica of Celtia]

I have to admit that I refused a 1 point forfeit when I thought i can win gammon. But i didn't realize it was only a 1p match. My bad...

[EdBear100Acres]

If you offer a 1 point forfeit after you have already borne off some pieces (so there is no possibility of a gammon), your opponent is not given the opportunity to refuse the forfeit.

[Charlieboy80]

I did just this the other day in a 7 point tournament - I was offered a 1 point forfeit, declined (but stated in the chat that I was shooting for gammon) - thus offering my opponent a chance to forfeit with a gammon loss. He didn't - so I won. With a Gammon I might add!

It was quite a fun 7-pointer; and my opponent was friendly and chatty. Sometimes a little communication goes a long way.

[daveted]

"I was offered a 1 point forfeit, declined (but stated in the chat that I was shooting for gammon) - thus offering my opponent a chance to forfeit with a gammon loss."

I'm in a similar situation now in a turn based game. I'm in a good position to win a gammon.
And they keep offering me a forfeit. I keep declining, and they keep offering, thus stalling the game indefinitely. Very frustrating.

[JohnnyCyclops]

In my most recent game, Arena to 3 points, I was 2-0 up after game one and well ahead in game two that was a Crawford Game for a single point (no doubling allowed).

I’d borne off one piece. My opponent had one piece on the bar. They forfeited and I gained a backgammon for three points, taking the match 5-0.

How does BGA determine a forfeit gammon/backgammon? Was it because I had borne off the single piece? Had the opponent forfeited a turn earlier (still on the bar) but with me not having borne off, would the forfeit have been for a single point? (I would have accepted as I only needed one more point for the match).

I’ve read a little and it seems etiquette would be for the player forfeiting to set their terms, so forfeit for the game stake (one point, unless doubling happened) or forfeit for a gammon/backgammon. The opponent can reject a ‘too low’ forfeit, but counteroffer that the forfeit be for a gammon/backgammon. It looks like BGA determined the forfeit was for a backgammon. Possibly three forfeit buttons might help, or the opponent can counteroffer the forfeit. And yes, discuss the forfeit offer via chat.

Further etiquette in match play would be to accept a lower forfeit value if it concludes the match. In my case I would have accepted a one point forfeit as that was all I needed for the match. It’s poor etiquette to hold out for the gammon/backgammon “just so” they can win with that achievement. Winning a 3 point match by 5-0 is the same as 3-0; the match is won, which is all that matters.

[daveted]

Full details - In my current game, the score is currently 1-0 in my opponents favour. It's a 3 point game
Doubling cube is with them, so the game is worth 2 points. I'm well ahead. I'm 5 turns away from the win, and they still have 2 stones in my home area.

They continually offer to forfeit, because if I take it, I only get 2 points, and then there's one more game. They've offered it 5 times now.
If we play on, I may get 3 points with a gammon, and win outright. So it's not the same as the above example. If I accept the forfeit, I could still end up losing overall.

So, what is the etiquette is in this case? In real life, etiquette would be offer to forfeit except there's no way the person who is close to winning with a gammon would accept. In my opinion, even offering it is a bit rude.

[euklid314]

In my current game, the score is currently 1-0 in my opponents favour. It's a 3 point game
Doubling cube is with them, so the game is worth 2 points. I'm well ahead 20 vs 106

They continually offer to concede, because if I take it, I get 2 points, then there's one more game. They're strategically offering to concede, and I'm strategically refusing it. They've offered it about 5 times now.
If we play on, I may get 3 points, and win the whole thing. So it's not the same as your above example This current game is not for the win.

So, what do you say the etiquette is in this case?

I looked at your game. Your gammon chances are approx. 50%, i.e. your opponent offering to resign only a single game is inappropriate and will definitely be refused by you.

Multiple such offers can have two reasons:
*) Your opponent is very inexperienced and does not know the difference of single game and gammon. He might wonder why you are refusing his resign when he cannot win. Have you explained in chat that you play for gammon and would accept his forfeit of a gammon?

*) Your opponent is well aware of the situation but he is toxic and wants to annoy you and stalls the game on purpose. Can he offer to resign multiple times on the same move? Or does BGA at least force him to make an ordinary move between two resign offers?

In the latter case (toxic player) you could try to time out your opponent if you have the patience (2 days!). If this is not possible (because he is online more often than you) then you either accept his offer of a single game or you simply quit the whole match. No need to waste your time and nerves on toxic players. Red thumb them and move on. Let them enjoy their "victory" by bullying - perhaps they desparately need it for their ego.