ELO vanishing in 3 player games

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Ragnarok1er
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ELO vanishing in 3 player games

Post by Ragnarok1er »

Hi,

I have a friend who plays almost exclusively this game at 3 players, and he's getting quite disheartened that most 3 player games end up with a global loss of Elo.
This appears to be because the game is wrongly set as a "team" game, which means second place cannot gain Elo even if they should.

Here's an example of this situation : https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=516528557
In this table, the 2nd place player should have won 4 Elo (you can see it by hovering on the "+0" with your mouse), but instead he gets 0 because "you cannot gain Elo in case of team loss". As a result, the whole table is down 4 Elo total because of it.

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This means that it's impossible to climb in Elo playing 3 player games. If 3 players of equal skill at 500 Elo kept playing versus each other, in a month or so they would all be at 400, then at 300, etc.
This does not happen in 2 player games (in fact, in 2 player games there is Elo inflation because of the protection given to people at 100 Elo or under), which seems quite unfair.
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ChiefPointThief
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Re: ELO vanishing in 3 player games

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I mentioned this in the mega thread about elo changes because I thought maybe those changes affected games like living forest. There was a switch that caused this problem sometime around December last year. The example you’ve shown is mild. I’ve seen games in which double digit elo should’ve been given to 2nd place and they get zero. Furthermore because of the silly consecutive win penalty good players are losing elo as well. How elo is being rated for this game is a joke.
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