Norwegians is coming to town

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carnage4u
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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Jellby wrote: 17 July 2024, 11:25
carnage4u wrote: 17 July 2024, 03:03 Those requirements are hilarious.
Why? Testing is for testing, and they need experienced players that know the platform, how other games behave, etc. It's not "early access" for enthusiasts.
I understanding wanting people that have a some access and experience as you said it is an alpha, but those some of us may go deep in specific games but not wide. I wouldn't qualify probably as I'm too new, but it is an absurdly deep requirement.

I'll just wait and see if the game gets into beta while I still have an active sub to this website. a lot of games I enjoy are missing most expansions, which takes away value of boardgamearea so this place might not be made for me (and thats ok)
lazerlike42
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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carnage4u wrote: 22 July 2024, 02:56
Jellby wrote: 17 July 2024, 11:25
carnage4u wrote: 17 July 2024, 03:03 Those requirements are hilarious.
Why? Testing is for testing, and they need experienced players that know the platform, how other games behave, etc. It's not "early access" for enthusiasts.
I understanding wanting people that have a some access and experience as you said it is an alpha, but those some of us may go deep in specific games but not wide. I wouldn't qualify probably as I'm too new, but it is an absurdly deep requirement.

I'll just wait and see if the game gets into beta while I still have an active sub to this website. a lot of games I enjoy are missing most expansions, which takes away value of boardgamearea so this place might not be made for me (and thats ok)
I think that the part of the requirement that is most confusing to me is not the 750 total games played, which could perhaps be reasonable, but the need to have played 50 unique titles. A person who has played 750 games over 50 different titles might have played each title 15 times. A person who has played those 750 games over only 5 titles may have played each game 150 times. I think it's very probable that there are ins and outs of how games translate to this platform that are more recognizable to a person who has played a single title 150 or 200 or 300 times as compared to someone who has played a much larger number of games but played each one fewer times.

I'd even go so far as to suspect that people who have played a smaller number of titles a larger number of times are people who are probably more likely to have pushed the implementation to its limits by attempting to use some very precise, "edge case" type moves than people who are playing these individual games less frequently. In other words, someone who has played 5 titles 200 times each might be someone who is trying moves that are legal but very unusual which an implementation may be more likely to miss as compared to someone who has played 50 titles only 20 times each.

I'd also suspect that people who have played 750 games over only 5 titles are probably the sort of people who play only those games they have a lot of dedication to and so would be likely to contribute significantly more testing to an alpha game. If someone has played 100 different games, I'd think they'd be likely to try out an alpha a handful of times but not much more since they want to play so many other games. I'd think that someone who has only played 7 titles but played a total of 1000 times and wants to try out an alpha is probably going to play that alpha 200 times before they're done.
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Jellby
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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If you want to be a reviewer, and have already 750 games in 5 different titles, it will take you only a little time to try 45 other titles.
lazerlike42
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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Jellby wrote: 25 July 2024, 19:18 If you want to be a reviewer, and have already 750 games in 5 different titles, it will take you only a little time to try 45 other titles.
I don't think this is true in most cases. In the very best case scenario, you know 45 other relatively short games well enough to be able to just play through them. That might work out to 30 minutes per game, so it will take just about 24 hours' worth of playing against other opponents who happen to also be looking to plow through their games as fast as possible. Even that is quite a time investment.

In the more likely scenario, you're going to need to learn many if not most of the other games before you can play them, in which case the total time is probably several times that.
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Jellby
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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lazerlike42 wrote: 25 July 2024, 20:19 In the very best case scenario, you know 45 other relatively short games well enough to be able to just play through them. That might work out to 30 minutes per game, so it will take just about 24 hours' worth of playing against other opponents who happen to also be looking to plow through their games as fast as possible. Even that is quite a time investment.
There are shorter games that can be learnt and played in 10 minutes. There are also many games that can be played solo (although I don't know if training games count towards the requirements).

I'd start looking into these:
https://boardgamearena.com/gamelist?pla ... tionTag=10
https://boardgamearena.com/gamelist?dur ... exityTag=2

I'm not saying that the current requirements are the best possible, but if you want them to change, you better find or file a BGA suggestion in https://boardgamearena.com/bugs?game=0. To those interested in being a reviewer, I'd recommend start working on meeting the requirements, rather than waiting for them to change.
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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Has this project stalled or is it still being worked on?
dlkgamer
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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I think Frank and Feuerland did not give the necessary approval to proceed :(

EDIT: I have been corrected.
Last edited by dlkgamer on 09 October 2024, 21:14, edited 1 time in total.
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Old_Prospector
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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Would love to have this on BGA. I'd definitely pay for it separately from BGA premium.
XpertDBA
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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Can we get a definitive yes or no if this is ever going to be a thing? Some sort of status? If we're all waiting around for something that's never going to officially happen, then that kind of sucks.
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EricMulvihill
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Re: Norwegians is coming to town

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Too many of my favorite BGA games (Odin, Viticulture, Ark Nova) have expansions that the majority of players feel improves the game immensely, and have developers waiting, but no word from IP holders. This leads me to believe that BGA could look harder to create incentive models for publishers to implement expansions for their games. I would gladly pay real money for access to my favorite expansions in a digital format.

Many of us are digital first, or digital only. It's not just an advertisement for the cardboard version anymore.
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