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Re: Elo system is not fair

Posted: 09 April 2022, 20:56
by Meeplelowda
Jellby wrote: 09 April 2022, 17:14
Turatar III wrote: 09 April 2022, 16:35The problem is that I lose more points than I gain when beating a person from the same elo.
Against someone with lower elo than you, you lose more points when you lose than you win when you win.
Against someone with higher elo than you, you win more points when you win than you lose when you lose.

That's the whole point of elo.
Exactly this. Let's say I walk in off the street and beat Magnus Carlsen. Either his ranking was way overrated, or my ranking was way underrated, or both. There should be a big adjustment to both of our ratings to get them closer to what they would be at equilibrium.

But if he beats me? Big deal. He's supposed to beat some random guy off the street 999 times out of 1000. Doing so shouldn't raise his rating much, if at all.

If someone is consistently losing to much lower rated players, by definition that person is overrated.

Re: Elo system is not fair

Posted: 11 April 2022, 11:32
by voriki
We should just abolish ELO, all it leads to are whiny people caring about virtual internet points.