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Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 23 July 2022, 20:14
by Meeplelowda
sorryimlikethis wrote: 23 July 2022, 20:10
Forza Binda wrote: 23 July 2022, 20:02 Its clear that the premium accounts have a different treatment. More the luck Is involved in the games (dices, cards, etc), easier It Is to notice It. The point Is that a system like this, which should spread love for games, Is actually betraying the basic rules of gaming. If they only could admit It, instead of underlining that the premium account Is Just a "contribution", It would at least be more honest.
Should I get a refund? Because I lost this game of Yahtzee to a standard account.
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=269404983

How do I activate the better dice rolls?
You neglected to do the secret Premium handshake. They didn't know.

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 23 July 2022, 21:26
by Forza Binda
Good One. Maybe your consciousness Is not exactly an example of clean, but I must admit that your sense of humor is definitely developer.

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 24 July 2022, 01:15
by ViolentSilence
Meeplelowda wrote: 23 July 2022, 20:14 You neglected to do the secret Premium handshake. They didn't know.
It's a handshake now? When I was a premium member, you had to press the space bar every six seconds for a minute while chanting "elbillug" over and over

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 24 July 2022, 01:23
by Jest Phulin
ViolentSilence wrote: 24 July 2022, 01:15
It's a handshake now? When I was a premium member, you had to press the space bar every six seconds for a minute while chanting "elbillug" over and over
That was only when they first released audio chat, and the microphone could actually pick it up. The handshake protocol is used otherwise.

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 24 July 2022, 04:39
by JoysJoy
Forza Binda wrote: 23 July 2022, 20:02 Its clear that the premium accounts have a different treatment. More the luck Is involved in the games (dices, cards, etc), easier It Is to notice It. The point Is that a system like this, which should spread love for games, Is actually betraying the basic rules of gaming. If they only could admit It, instead of underlining that the premium account Is Just a "contribution", It would at least be more honest.
Huh. Nope. Dont see it. Why dont you use gift points and become premium for a month? I think you actually kept track of this statistics you would see that you are noticing is probably what psychology calls a fundamental attribution error. We noticed things that match our feelings more so we count them more and we don’t really notice the actual statistics.

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 24 July 2022, 05:39
by voriki
Forza Binda wrote: 23 July 2022, 20:02 Its clear that the premium accounts have a different treatment.
This has been discussed so often, and everytime it was analyzed, there were zero statistical evidence of this.

What my personal opinion is is that 'in general' premium players are "better" players and are able to better utilize the random rolls provided them. That I use the word 'better' I mostly refer to more experienced gamers, whom play very seriously and competitively here on the site, hundreds of games a week, versus a standard account that maybe only play a handful of games a week. The first group would easier pay up the premium fee as they would get more bang for their buck.


Complaining that premium players get better rolls has just as much validity as stating "people who own horses live longer". It's not the horses that make people live longer, but that they are more likely to afford healthcare. Just like being premium doesn't make people better players, but that people who buy premium are more likely to be better players on their own.

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 24 July 2022, 08:53
by Jellby
It could be that the site's evil algorithm randomly picks users to favor with dice rolls and so on. Then those lucky users are so happy with their results, that they subscribe for premium, in a way reminiscent to a stock market scam.

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 24 July 2022, 09:17
by voriki
Jellby wrote: 24 July 2022, 08:53 stock market scam.
Thank you, I love reading stuff like that.

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 24 July 2022, 22:56
by frogstar_A
Forza Binda wrote: 23 July 2022, 20:02 Its clear that the premium accounts have a different treatment. More the luck Is involved in the games (dices, cards, etc), easier It Is to notice It. The point Is that a system like this, which should spread love for games, Is actually betraying the basic rules of gaming. If they only could admit It, instead of underlining that the premium account Is Just a "contribution", It would at least be more honest.
I'm a premium player. Why is it then that I don't notice on a daily basis all these amazing great cards and dice rolls I should be getting?

Have you actually collected data on this conspiracy to back it up?

I strongly urge you to go premium for a year. It will help BGA out and it will prove to you beyond doubt that there is no bias. I promise you that if you go premium you will, roll the same number of 6s in a year that you do now.

Re: Bias towards premium players

Posted: 25 July 2022, 18:00
by player1772
I'm not surprised to see this player make such a ridiculous complaint. He is one of the rudest players I have ever come across on this site. He is known to be a nuisance and complainer amongst the COB community when it comes to "bad die rolls." He also takes his anger on his opponents and makes offensive statements.