Don't show players' ELO in the game

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Stroom
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Re: Don't show players' ELO in the game

Post by Stroom »

_KwiZ_ wrote: 14 April 2023, 06:48 It's true that there is no perfect metric to measure a player's skill. But you admitted that there are skilled players and non-skilled players, and Catan is not a pure luck game. So something like elo is a rough estimate of a player's skill, and it's not meaningless. Anyway, even elo is removed completely, I'm ok with that. I'm just against displaying that elo in a game.
Even if Catan is a game of skill, I also mentioned that at even levels, the game still ends up being a game of luck. the skill ceiling is actually quite low. At some point the skill difference doesn't even matter as luck interferes so much.

And if you don't display elo in a game, you can still individually look through each players profile to find the elo from there.
silentProtest
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Re: Don't show players' ELO in the game

Post by silentProtest »

Stroom wrote: 14 April 2023, 16:04
_KwiZ_ wrote: 14 April 2023, 06:48 It's true that there is no perfect metric to measure a player's skill. But you admitted that there are skilled players and non-skilled players, and Catan is not a pure luck game. So something like elo is a rough estimate of a player's skill, and it's not meaningless. Anyway, even elo is removed completely, I'm ok with that. I'm just against displaying that elo in a game.
Even if Catan is a game of skill, I also mentioned that at even levels, the game still ends up being a game of luck. the skill ceiling is actually quite low. At some point the skill difference doesn't even matter as luck interferes so much.

And if you don't display elo in a game, you can still individually look through each players profile to find the elo from there.
just read through the forum a little - found that comment really funny: IF skillLevel even, in skill+luck game, THEN only Luck matters. Yeah, that is always true (if you are willing to oversimplify things in this matter). xDDD
But more seriously, no it is not mapable like that. Skill and Luck are not well defined in the game and have in any timepoint in the game different/non-linear effects on the game. Also who-tf would seriously map a game, any game, like that, if hhe were to make any serious analysis about it ?
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