If i ever HADARA each time i got asked about it...

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Starwarrior1128
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Re: If i ever HADARA each time i got asked about it...

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robinzig wrote: 18 May 2023, 21:58
Starwarrior1128 wrote: 18 May 2023, 15:55 I want my Fantasy Flight games!!!
Ask Fantasy Flight to give BGA the rights to adapt their games for the platform then. Most likely they're not interested - but who knows.

BGA can't just pick and choose whatever games they - or their members - want. They need publishers to give them permission. (And then they need to find a developer - most often a volunteer - to agree to do it, which certainly wouldn't be a given for complex games like most of FF's. But that's secondary to getting a licence in the first place.)
I've already have emailed Fantasy Flight Games (and other game companies that I like) about licensing their games to BGA. Sadly, I did not get a reply back. But I'm sure an official representative from BGA trying to contact them would get a more serious response back than from some nobody boardgamer. I understand that BGA needs licenses, what I don't believe is that only Euro games are willing to license to BGA as that has only been the new games BGA has released for months and months. There is a clear bias among the top level at BGA to pursue Euro games and ignore the pleas of people wanting more interactive or Ameritrash games. If they still want Euro games, then at least that can try to get the licenses of better Euro games like Terraforming Mars or Unfair, but most of the time it's the most dry Euro games you can think of.
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Re: If i ever HADARA each time i got asked about it...

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Starwarrior1128 wrote: 20 May 2023, 01:59
robinzig wrote: 18 May 2023, 21:58
Starwarrior1128 wrote: 18 May 2023, 15:55 I want my Fantasy Flight games!!!
Ask Fantasy Flight to give BGA the rights to adapt their games for the platform then. Most likely they're not interested - but who knows.

BGA can't just pick and choose whatever games they - or their members - want. They need publishers to give them permission. (And then they need to find a developer - most often a volunteer - to agree to do it, which certainly wouldn't be a given for complex games like most of FF's. But that's secondary to getting a licence in the first place.)
I've already have emailed Fantasy Flight Games (and other game companies that I like) about licensing their games to BGA. Sadly, I did not get a reply back. But I'm sure an official representative from BGA trying to contact them would get a more serious response back than from some nobody boardgamer. I understand that BGA needs licenses, what I don't believe is that only Euro games are willing to license to BGA as that has only been the new games BGA has released for months and months. There is a clear bias among the top level at BGA to pursue Euro games and ignore the pleas of people wanting more interactive or Ameritrash games. If they still want Euro games, then at least that can try to get the licenses of better Euro games like Terraforming Mars or Unfair, but most of the time it's the most dry Euro games you can think of.
https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30610

Read Kayvon and Tisaac's answers. BGA can't force publishers to grant licenses...
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Re: If i ever HADARA each time i got asked about it...

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Hadara exists on BGA because a developer took the time to learn the BGA framework, chose a game they wanted to develop that had a license/publisher support, and devoted dozens to hundreds of hours (always more time than you'd expect) sticking to the project and seeing it through to stable release. No part of Sir Heo's effort prevents FFG properties or any other games from being developed or having licenses negotiated. Derailing the announcement thread that celebrates the debut release of a new BGA developer is not going to do anything toward making the games you want available on BGA.

There are already several other threads on this topic - please let the developer have their moment. These announcement threads are the main point of social recognition and celebration of their work that developers get after quietly devoting almost all their free time over several weeks or months. If this had been the face the BGA community showed me on my first release, greeting the announcement with a pile-on of complaints, I might not have wanted to stick around. It's like standing at the finish line of a marathon and telling the runners that you're disappointed they didn't climb a mountain.

On topic:
Thanks for the implementation! This is a game I've always wanted to try since it came out.
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Re: If i ever HADARA each time i got asked about it...

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In my mind, it's kind of an exploitation of child labor. Kids can be great programmers but they can also be kind of dumb. They probably imagine getting all kinds of praise and adoration from thousands of loving fans, but then they learn how life really works. That it's full of competition, and that you just don't get the level of recognition or success you think you'll get unless you basically set up your own website and then invest in marketing, etc.. But BGA seems a little too happy to take advantage of the zeal of new programmers willing to work for free, before they learn not to let people exploit them.
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