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Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 13 December 2023, 09:00
by lordalx
We are aware of the situation and a fix should be retroactively applied in the next hours regarding ELO from SOLO tables.
An announcement is incoming regarding the recent changes in the ELO system - stay tuned

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 13 December 2023, 09:24
by USAGI TI
There are no longer ‘victories’ in coop games, now my victory rate drops because my victory doesn’t count (like winning in training mode counts as losing in victory rate)

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 13 December 2023, 09:25
by schoolio
I hope this is not permanent. It is very helpful to see a player's rating while you are playing the game. You can alter your play/strategy if you know other's ranking or you can offer help if you know they are very new to the game. Also, not being able to see how many points everyone gets after a game (thinking about Hanabi) is an unfortunate development as well. Please bring these features back.

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 13 December 2023, 11:26
by loulou9259
I do agree

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 13 December 2023, 12:27
by Meeplelowda
Here's the link to the announcement: ELO System Updates

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 13 December 2023, 16:06
by sprockitz
PilviS wrote: 13 December 2023, 06:57
sprockitz wrote: 13 December 2023, 02:27 This broke Elo in games with solo variants. Now have someone i. Railroad ink with 1300 Elo by playing solo someone in next station london almost 900. Whatever this fix was it broke a bunch of other stuff!!!
But railroad ink is not co-op. Those co-op's i played were you can play solo, you don't get any elo's. I am neither sure can you get elo's on other games by playing solo... At least as I remember before couldn't get any.
yeah you shouldn't be able to but i'm guessing whatever they did introduced a bug that messed up the rankings and now people have ridiculous Elo from solo games.

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 13 December 2023, 19:43
by Meeplelowda
sprockitz wrote: 13 December 2023, 16:06
PilviS wrote: 13 December 2023, 06:57
sprockitz wrote: 13 December 2023, 02:27 This broke Elo in games with solo variants. Now have someone i. Railroad ink with 1300 Elo by playing solo someone in next station london almost 900. Whatever this fix was it broke a bunch of other stuff!!!
But railroad ink is not co-op. Those co-op's i played were you can play solo, you don't get any elo's. I am neither sure can you get elo's on other games by playing solo... At least as I remember before couldn't get any.
yeah you shouldn't be able to but i'm guessing whatever they did introduced a bug that messed up the rankings and now people have ridiculous Elo from solo games.
From the announcement of ELO changes I linked to above:
PS: Some of this changes were introduced silently yesterday afternoon already, in order of us to perform final checks, unfortunately, this lead to unexpected behavior on ELO for solo games that are currently under individual fixes.

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 14 December 2023, 04:48
by sandydye
I do hope the ELO's visibility for Hardback will be restored, as it is a fundamental element for enjoyment of the game in totality. Thanks!

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 14 December 2023, 08:55
by Jellby
USAGI TI wrote: 13 December 2023, 09:24 There are no longer ‘victories’ in coop games, now my victory rate drops because my victory doesn’t count (like winning in training mode counts as losing in victory rate)
I guess that also means you can no longer get "first victory" trophies (and associated 5 gift points) for cooperative games.

Re: Changes in elo's visiblity in cooperatives games

Posted: 14 December 2023, 13:21
by Blacktango
Jellby wrote: 14 December 2023, 08:55
USAGI TI wrote: 13 December 2023, 09:24 There are no longer ‘victories’ in coop games, now my victory rate drops because my victory doesn’t count (like winning in training mode counts as losing in victory rate)
I guess that also means you can no longer get "first victory" trophies (and associated 5 gift points) for cooperative games.
I don't know what you are talking about. Nothing has changed, except that the ELO value is now hidden.
The number of games/victories and even our rank (strong/expert/master/...) are still calculated the same way.


EDIT: Oh, actually I am wrong about the victories. I understand now, the nb of games is updated, and so the ELO, but not the number of victories.