Board Game Arena

There's a reason why this isn't implemented in the base game. stupid idea

Mukulf wrote: ↑22 April 2024, 10:06

BattleDreameR wrote: ↑20 April 2024, 21:35

Ehrine wrote: ↑19 April 2024, 10:31 Very unlikely to happen. BGA tends to only support officially approved variants and not "house rules", mostly due to the fact that any such variant can end up in Arena.

Maybe you are right. Technically its homerule. But its not a tipical homerule. Its a logic step that follows from rules of this game. I think author just troll players when did not prescribe start draft

I think we need to take this matter directly to the designer!

Good idea! But I dont know how ^)

Birmin wrote: ↑24 April 2024, 14:04 There's a reason why this isn't implemented in the base game. stupid idea

There cant be no good reason. Draft = balance, no draft = bad balance. Thats a fact not opinion. All advanced players know that. Start this game with 2 bad corps and 10 bad cards - how can it be a nice idea? Draft litteraly kills that problem. Its still will be a serious factor of luck (first picks, players turns) but not so huge.

Jacob Fryxelius (the designer) is aware of this variant rule/idea and has commented on why it is not part of the game rules. https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/257856 ... 9#36734549

ErikLevin wrote: ↑24 April 2024, 18:50 Jacob Fryxelius (the designer) is aware of this variant rule/idea and has commented on why it is not part of the game rules. https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/257856 ... 9#36734549

Interesting, thanks. But here he does not argue with the fact that the starting draft works in favor of balance and reduces the luck factor. And that's exactly what I'm talking about. The rest (the format of the game) is a taste question. That's why I don't see any problem having this function as a separate option. Besides, we are all human and we all make mistakes. Moreover, those who create something complex, multi-layered and serious (like Mars) can make mistakes. The author of the game is not an icon. From the point of view of elementary logic, it is obvious that having a draft of 4 cards between rounds and not having a draft of the starting 10 cards is extravagant and, at least, questionable. The princip and the meaning are the same. Then you can play without a draft at all. Or, since there is a draft between rounds, play with the starting draft. This is logic.

As someone who has played hundreds of games of Mars, I have to say that starting draft is absolutely essential for the fairness of the game and is neccessary for experienced players to enjoy the game long-term. If there is a petition to the designer happening, me and number of my friends would sign it immidiatelly

Definitely agree with drafting at initial phase as an option. Allowing the players creating the tables to decide using it or not would be a good idea (just like Hanabi I played, there are so many variant rules that you can choose from)

It would be freaking amazing to have this option! It's a shame it's not part of the base game/rules.

Designer is on record being against it.

That was 8 years ago and his opinion might have changed, but if not I don't see it ever being added here.

Mukulf wrote: ↑20 April 2024, 20:53After that we all get a (global) Merger prelude, with four new corporations, choose one of them, and then start the game

Sounds like exactly why this won't happen, slippery slope of a million house rules people want.