bga forest shuffle seems to have a winning-loosing mechanism

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firgon
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Re: bga forest shuffle seems to have a winning-loosing mechanism

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:D :D :D
I really wish I were skilled enough to code an algorithm like that. Most people don’t realize just how complex it would be: avoiding playing against an opponent who’s also on a winning streak, predicting your strategy to provide you with the right cards, determining the perfect moment—random enough—to stop your winning streak so it doesn’t look suspicious... It’s incredibly intricate.

Honestly, only luck can explain such streaks. With thousands of you regularly playing FS on BGA :heartOnYou: , statistically, these streaks must MANDATORY occur in such large numbers. And you just ignore each time, they didn't occur in your playing life.

As Ceaseless said : solved.
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So, let's see... Whenever someone has a winning streak, it's broken by one (or more) losses? Really? Is that the "rigging"? Would people expect a winning streak to go on indefinitely or what?
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Re: bga forest shuffle seems to have a winning-loosing mechanism

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Ceaseless wrote: 11 February 2026, 01:19
P-e-n-n-y wrote: 10 February 2026, 16:33 I know that it might be just randomness, luck, whatever you want to call it.
Solved.
Is it?
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P-e-n-n-y wrote: 12 February 2026, 10:11
Ceaseless wrote: 11 February 2026, 01:19
P-e-n-n-y wrote: 10 February 2026, 16:33 I know that it might be just randomness, luck, whatever you want to call it.
Solved.
Is it?
There's nothing to indicate otherwise. The premise of this thread is little more than an overdone joke. No reason to take it seriously when they clearly didn't bother to.
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Ceaseless wrote: 12 February 2026, 17:07
P-e-n-n-y wrote: 12 February 2026, 10:11
Ceaseless wrote: 11 February 2026, 01:19

Solved.
Is it?
There's nothing to indicate otherwise. The premise of this thread is little more than an overdone joke. No reason to take it seriously when they clearly didn't bother to.
For someone that has 0 plays, saying that it is solved, that is funny! ;)
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P-e-n-n-y wrote: 13 February 2026, 13:55
Ceaseless wrote: 12 February 2026, 17:07
P-e-n-n-y wrote: 12 February 2026, 10:11

Is it?
There's nothing to indicate otherwise. The premise of this thread is little more than an overdone joke. No reason to take it seriously when they clearly didn't bother to.
For someone that has 0 plays, saying that it is solved, that is funny! ;)
It is pretty funny, why do Forest Shuffle players need an outsider to tell them something everyone else already knows? :lol: Surely they have their own players that can tell them this basic common sense? It's not like this is even a question about Forest Shuffle or BGA. The same thing happens in every other game; players go on winning streaks and losing streaks. Then some people get all paranoid about their losing streaks and accuse the website of hacking the results to make them go on winning/losing streaks, whether it be BGA or some other site. Same goes if this happens in real life, somehow the results were rigged so they'd go on streaks. How? Who knows, it's not like this argument was ever grounded in reality to begin with, they can just make up whatever they want. :lol: They'll accuse the cards/dice of being rigged in games of luck, their pairings of being rigged when it's games without luck. I've seen this song and dance many times. There will always be people trying stunts like this even when we know better. It's an old joke at this point.
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Ceaseless wrote: 13 February 2026, 17:16
P-e-n-n-y wrote: 13 February 2026, 13:55
Ceaseless wrote: 12 February 2026, 17:07

There's nothing to indicate otherwise. The premise of this thread is little more than an overdone joke. No reason to take it seriously when they clearly didn't bother to.
For someone that has 0 plays, saying that it is solved, that is funny! ;)
It is pretty funny, why do Forest Shuffle players need an outsider to tell them something everyone else already knows? :lol: Surely they have their own players that can tell them this basic common sense? It's not like this is even a question about Forest Shuffle or BGA. The same thing happens in every other game; players go on winning streaks and losing streaks. Then some people get all paranoid about their losing streaks and accuse the website of hacking the results to make them go on winning/losing streaks, whether it be BGA or some other site. Same goes if this happens in real life, somehow the results were rigged so they'd go on streaks. How? Who knows, it's not like this argument was ever grounded in reality to begin with, they can just make up whatever they want. :lol: They'll accuse the cards/dice of being rigged in games of luck, their pairings of being rigged when it's games without luck. I've seen this song and dance many times. There will always be people trying stunts like this even when we know better. It's an old joke at this point.
solved
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saixd wrote: 17 January 2026, 19:29 luck, opponent skill level variance, losing a lot made you feel bad, so you played worse.
this !
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This is the Forest Shuffle version of the endless long threads crying "the dice aren't fair!" in games that use dice, like Catan.

True to form, this thread doesn't actually provide any evidence for the claim, only a feeling and some handpicked examples, showing that people don't understand how randomness (and good quality pseudorandomness) work.
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It could also be explained by Fate.
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