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Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 15:24
by Pushkiin
RicardoRix wrote: ↑21 March 2022, 14:12
Ukraine are going through unimaginable tough times at the moment. BGA is open to allow communications to Russians who may be influenced by their state media that otherwise paint a different picture. Russia is a democracy. The best way to stop the war would be if the Russian population speak out against the actions of their leaders.
So far I have not seen a single post where a Russian player thanked for information that was shared about the war. All I have seen from them is on total insistence on their version of truth even from those who claim to be in solidarity with Ukraine. BGA is not a platform to share news, and if it is someone should be paid to do it, the process should be much more formalized rather than confined to message boards, but I don't think this a way to go. One thing to keep in mind is that Russian players can also use this platform to undermine the sanction actions against their government and nation by claiming that it's only affecting ordinary citizens not responsible for the war (despite their support for it). This is what many of them insisted on this thread as well. So far I have seen very little accountability on their part and no acceptance even of minimal level of collective responsibility.
Again the banning of the Russian flag on BGA should be the minimum. Again for Ukrainians, the flag is a sign of death and war, to support the flag on BGA is to support the war and death in Ukraine.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 15:43
by dschingis27
@RicardoRix. The problematic statement you made is that "Russia is a democracy." This is clearly not true and it is offensive. It's all nice and good that you are able to protest in UK, the point is that you couldn't do so in Russia, only with tremendous risk.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 15:48
by Cruella-Devil
Yet, you are encouraging Russian People to go and protest and we all know the consequences of that.
As for the UK government, they are an utter joke and I can say this because I live in the UK.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 16:15
by Savama
RicardoRix wrote: ↑21 March 2022, 15:13
Duchess-Kinga wrote: ↑21 March 2022, 15:01
RicardoRix, why don't you go to Moscow and protest, then you can let us all know how you got on.
This way communications can be made to help Russians better understand the situation with the war in Ukraine.
Russia started a war and invaded Ukraine, started destroying cities and killing civilians. What better understanding do you need to provide?? I’m sitting right now in the bomb shelter for the fifth time today. So please, stop talking about the things you know very little.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 16:28
by Cruella-Devil
I know plenty. I have family in Poland. Friends in Russia.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 16:40
by Savama
Duchess-Kinga wrote: ↑21 March 2022, 16:28
I know plenty. I have family in Poland. Friends in Russia.
My last message was addressed to Ricardo.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 16:44
by Cruella-Devil
Thank You for making it crystal clear.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 17:32
by desto
Thanks for your position, BGA Team. There is so little common sense in modern society.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 17:38
by RicardoRix
Savama wrote: ↑21 March 2022, 16:15
Russia started a war and invaded Ukraine, started destroying cities and killing civilians. What better understanding do you need to provide?? I’m sitting right now in the bomb shelter for the fifth time today. So please, stop talking about the things you know very little.
Yes of course I know that, and understand.
I make reference to the fact that Russians are being lied to by their state TV and government. The understanding is for them, not me.
I feel quite a heavy mis-understanding with a lost in translation vibe. So I'm out of the conversation from now.
I am in full support to stop the war.
Re: About war in Ukraine
Posted: 21 March 2022, 17:52
by lyllu
There can be no justification for killing people, and all normal people understand this, but why was everyone silent when America bombed Yugoslavia and Iraq? Where's the justice? I don't want to play with the Americans, take their flag away!