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Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 22 December 2020, 20:00
by N_Faker
whatshisbucket wrote: ↑22 December 2020, 19:44
The TOS state
“ The Player agrees to hold only one account on BGA, unless otherwise approved by BGA. We reserve the right to terminate any multiple accounts attributable to the same person.”
so what OP is doing is explicitly forbidden. The report was probably filed with Elo boosting as the listed reason because there is no way to file a report which is actually reflective of the situation.
BGA report system wrote:
It is acceptable to own several accounts on BGA, as long as it is reasonable and does not violate another rule of the website.
There, approval has been given.
Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 22 December 2020, 20:02
by Ze Monstah
Whatshisbucket, that is only 1 statement you copy-pasted; there are other places on the site, where is is written that multiple accounts are not forbidden, as long as their purpose is not to boost ELO, like in this case. So there is that vagueness of the "multiple accounts" thingy, everyone is talking about.
But... Having 5 accounts in order to get... accomplishment by having all in TOP 20 in "Sechs nimmt!", is in direct collision with 4 people's accomplishment of getting their only account in TOP 20 (for instance places 17-20), in that game, as well.
I think BGA should be cleared in regards to the Multiple Accounts thing, as well as delete all extra accounts who do what the Original Poster does, and let other single-account players get some accomplishment, as well.
The problem is solved.
Posted: 23 December 2020, 01:40
by Fiora_Laurent
The problem is solved.
Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 23 December 2020, 08:29
by N_Faker
Fiora_Laurent wrote: ↑23 December 2020, 01:40
But at least my behavior should not be found guilty with a reason of "cheat to boost ELO".
That's the standard text for a multiaccount report. And the only specified condition for the creation and use of multiaccounts...
Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 23 December 2020, 12:53
by Giordano Bruno 1974
I think BGA should probably clarify the situation. If creating multiple accounts is deemed to be wrong even if there is no evidence of cheating (which I don't think is unreasonable) then they should alter their FAQs to make this clear.
Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 23 December 2020, 12:56
by varietyCH
Jest Phulin wrote: ↑22 December 2020, 11:24
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑22 December 2020, 11:16
I can't think of any legitimate reason for having multiple accounts.
Just playing devil's advocate here: Having a test account is helpful for tracking down what triggers a bug, and
possibly for learning the interface of a new game. But I can't see why secondary accounts should play anywhere near as often as the primary account.
Wouldn't hotseatmode be better suited for this?
To the original poster who uses multiple accounts to write in the forum as well:
How to you avoid to play against your other accounts in Arena-Mode?
Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 23 December 2020, 13:01
by N_Faker
varietyCH wrote: ↑23 December 2020, 12:56
Wouldn't hotseatmode be better suited for this?
Hotseat is quite buggy and straight out does not work for any game without a strict turn order.
Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 25 December 2020, 02:09
by ufm
varietyCH wrote: ↑23 December 2020, 12:56
Wouldn't hotseatmode be better suited for this?
I once tried Time Masters with hotseat mode, and it was clunky as hell.
Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 25 December 2020, 12:18
by CaKtus
Reika_Kitami wrote: ↑22 December 2020, 05:21
Reika_Kitami: is using multiple accounts to boost ELO
I admit I have mulitple accounts . But using them to boost ELO ? Can anyone show me any evidence ? If nobody can ——
...
For sure, you are a cheater and ALL your accounts should be banned and erased from rankings.
I understand you did not cheat directly by playing fake games between you and yourself.
But you did cheat anyway., in a more subtle way.
The evidence is that you are making your opponents lose elo points. When someone plays against a supposed beginner, he will lose a very high amount of elo points while if he had been playing against you (with your real ranking) he would have lost much fewer. So none of your rankings are honest.
Re: Why I have been found guilty ? (multiple accounts)
Posted: 25 December 2020, 13:25
by N_Faker
CaKtus wrote: ↑25 December 2020, 12:18
You are basically just saying that multiple accounts aren't allowed, or specifically that they cannot play the same game, in a roundabout way.
If multiaccounts are allowed: isn't it a given that they are used to play games?