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mturton wrote: ↑27 March 2023, 14:06

mturton wrote: ↑23 March 2023, 02:59 We need the monuments updated ASAP.

Yup.

In family matches we have instituted a house rule that no monuments may be purchased. All of us are sick of losing to whoever has the Sculpture Garden.

TheReeve wrote: ↑27 March 2023, 17:30

mturton wrote: ↑27 March 2023, 14:06

mturton wrote: ↑23 March 2023, 02:59 We need the monuments updated ASAP.

Yup.

In family matches we have instituted a house rule that no monuments may be purchased. All of us are sick of losing to whoever has the Sculpture Garden.

House rules are great. I house rule almost every game I play. We own the games we own, and each player should experiment in the sandbox. The heavily weighted monuments are in the base game because the game is, paradoxically, a heavier gateway game. The power of the monuments (and the variability of other elements) gives newer players a puncher's chance to beat anyone, even me. That is by design. But the game can easily be customized to suit your preferences. I was never going to out-Lacerda Lacerda. Obsession exists because it is a heavier gateway game with a theme that draws non-gamers to the hobby. If non-gamers don't have a chance to win, they stay non-gamers.

emmapants wrote: ↑24 April 2023, 01:29

TheReeve wrote: ↑27 March 2023, 17:30

mturton wrote: ↑27 March 2023, 14:06

Yup.

In family matches we have instituted a house rule that no monuments may be purchased. All of us are sick of losing to whoever has the Sculpture Garden.

House rules are great. I house rule almost every game I play. We own the games we own, and each player should experiment in the sandbox. The heavily weighted monuments are in the base game because the game is, paradoxically, a heavier gateway game. The power of the monuments (and the variability of other elements) gives newer players a puncher's chance to beat anyone, even me. That is by design. But the game can easily be customized to suit your preferences. I was never going to out-Lacerda Lacerda. Obsession exists because it is a heavier gateway game with a theme that draws non-gamers to the hobby. If non-gamers don't have a chance to win, they stay non-gamers.

But you can't house rules when you're playing online. What about a game option to play without monuments then? I just massively lost a game because the other player was able to buy three monuments when they happened to come up.

TheReeve wrote: ↑26 April 2023, 11:57 There is a lot more involved to 3 monuments just happening to come up. That is likely over £2000 pounds in purchases, suggesting that player had a serious money engine. But I won't disagree that the monuments are powerful; that was by design.

However, enough players agree with you that I created low VP monuments in the Upstairs, Downstairs expansion. While I do not have any specific dates yet, I am in the process of planning the addition of Upstairs, Downstairs to BGA, and that will be an option.

Dan

mturton wrote: ↑28 May 2023, 12:24

TheReeve wrote: ↑26 April 2023, 11:57 There is a lot more involved to 3 monuments just happening to come up. That is likely over £2000 pounds in purchases, suggesting that player had a serious money engine. But I won't disagree that the monuments are powerful; that was by design.

However, enough players agree with you that I created low VP monuments in the Upstairs, Downstairs expansion. While I do not have any specific dates yet, I am in the process of planning the addition of Upstairs, Downstairs to BGA, and that will be an option.

Dan

So, we can't expect a programmer to go in and change 5 numbers in the database to lower the monuments to a more reasonable level until 2024? I am tired of losing games because the Sculpture Garden is an I-win button, and I hate having to buy it and demoralize the other player.

Can we at least implement a no-monuments variant, then?

kb_driven wrote: ↑01 November 2023, 14:54 Hi Dan and everyone!

I love the implementation of Obsession here, and thrilled to hear that Upstairs Downstairs is in the works to be added. I definitely agree with the UNDO suggestions earlier and hope that something can be worked into that addition, in particular the ability to Undo special actions.

That said, I think one other change/upgrade that would be valuable would be an indicator, preferably around the main board area, which tells the players which variants are in play. I love that variant options exist, and hopefully there will be more to come. But I find myself struggling to remember which market variant is going to be kicking in on any particular game. It makes it a lot harder to plan ahead for future turns if I can't remember when and how many tiles will be removed between turns and rounds. It's much more of a problem for turn-based games and those of us who play a lot of games simultaneously, but I think would be fairly easy to implement for all.

Thanks for considering