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Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 21 June 2024, 02:52
by Major Disaster
Is there a tutorial for Cities & Knights yet? This is another point of confusion - if someone wants to play the Cities and Knights expansion, the tutorial option suggests that Settlers of Catan is the same game, when they are quite different!
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 28 June 2024, 07:36
by soubAldo
Yes, having an Arena especially on Knight & Cities would be great.
Since the moment K&C has been introduced, i d'ont play anaymore to Catatn.
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 02 July 2024, 17:44
by Jeremy55
Rules together with an almanac showing all the card abilities are easy to find:
https://www.catan.com/sites/default/fil ... 200708.pdf
I totally agree with comments, it would be great to have this as a separate Arena game. I can't even figure how to have a game in basic mode but will try friending if that helps
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 02 July 2024, 22:52
by Fluckysan
Arena with K&C is needed!
I'm not playing the basic one anymore because I found the extension way better and I miss you competitive.
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 03 July 2024, 00:41
by Mathew5000
Jeremy55 wrote: ↑02 July 2024, 17:44
I can't even figure how to have a game in basic mode
You have a premium membership so you can start your own game from
https://boardgamearena.com/lobby (ensure that the option labelled "Expansion" is set to "Base game" if that's what you want). More detailed instructions here:
viewtopic.php?p=182428#p182428
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 03 August 2024, 00:09
by Jontia
Fluckysan wrote: ↑02 July 2024, 22:52
Arena with K&C is needed!
I'm not playing the basic one anymore because I found the extension way better and I miss you competitive.
There is zero chance of getting an Arena season with C&K with the guru/arena set up as I understand it.
Gurus are auto selected as players that play the most games.
Base Catan plays much faster than C&K catan.
Gurus will therefore be generally people that play Base Catan rather than C&K Catan.
When options for the next season come up, base catan players will chose base catan.
C&K catan will never be the settings for an arena seasons.
We can see existing evidence for this in the 3 vs 4 player options for Arena prior to the introduction of C&K.
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 04 August 2024, 09:26
by Fusselkopp
Jontia wrote: ↑03 August 2024, 00:09
Fluckysan wrote: ↑02 July 2024, 22:52
Arena with K&C is needed!
I'm not playing the basic one anymore because I found the extension way better and I miss you competitive.
There is zero chance of getting an Arena season with C&K with the guru/arena set up as I understand it.
Gurus are auto selected as players that play the most games.
Base Catan plays much faster than C&K catan.
Gurus will therefore be generally people that play Base Catan rather than C&K Catan.
When options for the next season come up, base catan players will chose base catan.
C&K catan will never be the settings for an arena seasons.
We can see existing evidence for this in the 3 vs 4 player options for Arena prior to the introduction of C&K.
Sometimes the gurus surprise you. The game Sushi Go was stuck in a terribly unsuitable 2-player format for years because that allows for finishing more games - but now it's suddenly 4 players. Much more fun!
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 11 August 2024, 11:16
by 33gul
+1 for a separate game and arena mode with cities and knights.
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 11 August 2024, 14:39
by wcraigtrader
+1 (really +100)
I've been playing Catan for a _long_ time (almost 30 years now), and I prefer Cities & Knights (C&K) -- it's really a separate game, even though it shares some mechanics with base Catan. Saying they're the same game would be like saying that 7-card Draw and Texas-Hold 'em are the same game because they both use poker hands that can be made from 7 cards. In tournament play in other arenas (eg: World Boardgame Championships, Catan Communities) they are treated as separate games.
Re: Cities & Knigts should be a separate game
Posted: 22 August 2024, 06:47
by dralkyr
Yes, yes, and yes again. Even if it's not made into an actual separate game - though it really should be, like really really should be - the fact that this expansion is enabled should be MUCH more obvious and there SHOULD be a separate arena for it. Which, really, means it should have it's own game.
Catan tournaments worldwide recognize this fact.