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Renedekart87 wrote: ↑06 June 2022, 07:50

tboard wrote: ↑05 June 2022, 07:17

Renedekart87 wrote: ↑03 June 2022, 06:56
This is such hypocrisy on your part. The United States has been staging coups d'etat for many decades, invading other countries, killing people, let's ban your flag too? Or are people from Arab countries different from white Ukrainians? are they second class? What you are suggesting is called ethnic discrimination. How can you not understand that the abolitions and bans of everything Russian will not affect the current situation in any way, by doing this you only cause the anger of Russian society.

You are accusing me of ethnic discrimination while your country is committing ethnic annihilation? And on top of that you also accuse me of hypocrisy? Do you even know what hypocrisy means? You should really read what you type before you post it for everyone to see. Your whole response to what I wrote is hypocritical. And there is no defensive argument to be made on Russia's behalf. Your country is behaving like we are still in the medieval period. Russia has zero respect for human life and human rights.

This is a dialogue between the blind and the deaf, you do not hear me, I do not understand you. It's useless.

Would you act blind and deaf if it were your family being slaughtered right in front of you in your own home? I understand that you don't live in a civilized region of the world where there is such a thing as democracy. And I also understand you are not afforded the same rights as the rest of us. But you still bear some responsibility for what is happening in Ukraine. The vast majority of Russians support the war.

tboard wrote: ↑08 June 2022, 20:26 You clearly support an evil dictator who is committing mass murder.

I think that statement is way out of line. Some people want to be neutral, others just don't see the point of taking any actions that has no influence on the outcome of the war whatsoever.

But if you're neutral, you're automatically cheering for this war?

voriki wrote: ↑08 June 2022, 22:16

tboard wrote: ↑08 June 2022, 20:26 You clearly support an evil dictator who is committing mass murder.

I think that statement is way out of line. Some people want to be neutral, others just don't see the point of taking any actions that has no influence on the outcome of the war whatsoever.

But if you're neutral, you're automatically cheering for this war?

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”

Although no one said that quote its rings as loudly now as ever.

Staying neutral is cheering for the war. It is saying: I don't mind you killing others as long as i am alive... This is exactly why in ww2 people were neutral untill it was too late.

Nothing good comes from standing by idly.

Same reason people do not recycle cos : One person wont change anything

or they don't protect the environment. Hell, we are in this global warming problem because people think they can't change anything alone.

Change comes from the single person taking action despite everything.

There are videos in YouTube where you can see street interviews of Russian people about the war in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kELta9MLOzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFg7AZ1Aajs

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Here's another YouTube video. Although unlikely to happen, nuclear war is still a possibility when great world powers are fighting on opposing sides of a war.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxJHecyYBno

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”

This is a War - it's not about evil triumphing, but of political chaos, polarization, and of a one world Government attempting to change the course of events and the course of a nation, and world.

Although no one said that quote its rings as loudly now as ever.

Not exactly...Who is Good? Good is no longer on the side of War going against Evil. Evil is on the side of war going against (itself) Evil. The World is inherently Evil

Staying neutral is cheering for the war.

let the War consume us all?

It is saying: I don't mind you killing others as long as i am alive.

It's All about staying Alive, Stayin Alive, I, I, I, I, STAYING ALIIIVE!

This is exactly why in ww2 people were neutral until it was too late.

The countries that were neutral remained neutral. Can I assume you are talking about the Neutrals that no longer remained Neutral - Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary? Which side were they forced to join? It might have worked out better for them had they stayed Neutral.

Nothing good comes from standing by idly.

Nothing Bad either.

You would have your War consume us all! And It probably will catch up to all of use in the end. Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
I use to enjoy some of the War games on this site. I no longer enjoy how others face War over a Computer Simulator...sounds like you have similar issues?

@waltero.

Greece was neutral and they stayed neutral. Allied forced came in anyway and used it as its base.

I am talking neutral before even the war happened or early days.

Like when they made an agreement with Hitler to not attack other countries and they through at the time thats a huge win.

Greece was neutral and they stayed neutral.

Greece actually wanted to stay neutral in WWII but they lost that option when Italy invaded in 1940. Or are you Talking Vichy France? 

Allied forced came in anyway and used it as its base.

Yes, As part of the Allied coalition (Greece protect its homeland, marking the first defeat of the Axis).

I am talking neutral before even the war happened

Could we consider Germany as a Neutral up until the time War broke out? Everybody Claimed Neutrality.

or early days.

Earlier than the time of War?... Hindsight is 20/20. Early War, everybody thought Germany would be Defeated in two weeks' time???

Like when they made an agreement with Hitler to not attack other countries and they through at the time thats a huge win.

Good point...I get that.  Maybe that is why we don't use Diplomacy anymore. Nobody wants to stay Neutral...Hitler played them as the fool. Now everybody wants a piece of the Action.

Why make Enemies?  I was Told; Love my enemies.

Doesn't it strike you as Odd - Diplomacy is no longer a thing, Where's the Love?
There's a War going on - who's on Diplomacy??? Will the real slim Shady please stand up.