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Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 15:48
by Keithustus
Side table. That's the name for the panel that appears when you tap your avatar at top right of main page? I kind of don't care what happened to the current-tables page, but the side table I use literally every time I visit BGA--multiple times per day--and it's awful now. It was pretty much perfect until today. It used to have just a list of active games, opponents, and whose turn it was. Now there's so much distracting other info about each game that it fills my phone's screen with junk and I need to scroll scroll scroll just to see who is in each game.

Revert.

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 15:50
by KenFin1
Keithustus wrote: 07 February 2024, 15:48 Side table. That's the name for the panel that appears when you tap your avatar at top right of main page? I kind of don't care what happened to the current-tables page, but the side table I use literally every time I visit BGA--multiple times per day--and it's awful now. It was pretty much perfect until today. It used to have just a list of active games, opponents, and whose turn it was. Now there's so much distracting other info about each game that it fills my phone's screen with junk and I need to scroll scroll scroll just to see who is in each game.

Revert.
omg yes. Please add to the official thread too: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 99#p168499

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 15:54
by elucidarian
I see what they're trying to do, but I don't care for the execution.

This side to side banner layout isn't as bad on my phone browser (which is ironic as they seem to want people to use the mobile app), but is too sparse across a desktop monitor. Maybe it was designed to accommodate games with a lot of players? My brain just doesn't like it.

Also, I know the suggested games section featured above the active games has a link to hide it, but I don't think it needs to be there at all. And isn't it redundant with the "Discover other games" section lower in the page?

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 16:35
by TexArcher
I hated it at first, too, but if you set it to 1 column display and small display, and remove the recommendations, it gets rid of the clutter and it actually looks pretty good.

I still don't like the sidebar, but there's a View All Tables button at the bottom to jump to that screen, and with the above layout, it's fine.

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 17:04
by elucidarian
Maybe it's just a matter of determining which default view works best for the most users.

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 17:23
by GTSchemer
I think it's fair to say that the new interface DOES work ok for some players. The issue is that for certain users it causes problems -- either with visual sensitivity (neuro-divergence or other), or because someone has a certain mobile phone, or because someone never plays normal / arena games.

So to be clear I'm not calling for the new interface to be utterly scrapped, but I think some small adjustments would make it far better for many users -- e.g. getting rid of avatars entirely on the mobile view.

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 17:23
by bamf226
This new layout is so bad, I may not use BGA any more. It is cringe city in terms of UI design.

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 17:32
by KenFin1
GTSchemer wrote: 07 February 2024, 17:23 I think it's fair to say that the new interface DOES work ok for some players. The issue is that for certain users it causes problems -- either with visual sensitivity (neuro-divergence or other), or because someone has a certain mobile phone, or because someone never plays normal / arena games.

So to be clear I'm not calling for the new interface to be utterly scrapped, but I think some small adjustments would make it far better for many users -- e.g. getting rid of avatars entirely on the mobile view.
Avatars were never a problem in the old format, i don't think that's the issue here (and there are many to pick from)

Another example, moving holiday joker trigger to the far top right so it overlaps with the player profile avatar used to trigger the side bar. That's not a great move, placing it where you constantly are moving to and clicking

Why does clicking on the game blob orange in my case, as TB games ongoing, otherwise green, not open the tables in progress page anymore but force opens the side bar? Removal of this link means middle click on it no longer opens the progress page in a new tab, which i would often do.

The more I'm forced to use this new page the more problems I find with it.

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 17:56
by GTSchemer
KenFin1 wrote: 07 February 2024, 17:32
GTSchemer wrote: 07 February 2024, 17:23 I think it's fair to say that the new interface DOES work ok for some players. The issue is that for certain users it causes problems -- either with visual sensitivity (neuro-divergence or other), or because someone has a certain mobile phone, or because someone never plays normal / arena games.

So to be clear I'm not calling for the new interface to be utterly scrapped, but I think some small adjustments would make it far better for many users -- e.g. getting rid of avatars entirely on the mobile view.
Avatars were never a problem in the old format, i don't think that's the issue here (and there are many to pick from)

Another example, moving holiday joker trigger to the far top right so it overlaps with the player profile avatar used to trigger the side bar. That's not a great move, placing it where you constantly are moving to and clicking

Why does clicking on the game blob orange in my case, as TB games ongoing, otherwise green, not open the tables in progress page anymore but force opens the side bar? Removal of this link means middle click on it no longer opens the progress page in a new tab, which i would often do.

The more I'm forced to use this new page the more problems I find with it.
Hmm, have you found a solution to reveal the usernames on narrow screens in Firefox? I'm definitely interested in a GreaseMonkey or similar script, though I'd prefer to avoid an entire custom extension unless I have to.

I don't personally feel the avatars add value, since a lot of them are stock images, and anyone wanting to see who is at a table and who is playing next probably won't be using the avatars -- AND those of us affected by visual noise would be happier without the avatars on the list.

Re: The new tables in progress page and side menu are too cluttered.

Posted: 07 February 2024, 18:04
by KenFin1
GTSchemer wrote: 07 February 2024, 17:56
KenFin1 wrote: 07 February 2024, 17:32
GTSchemer wrote: 07 February 2024, 17:23 I think it's fair to say that the new interface DOES work ok for some players. The issue is that for certain users it causes problems -- either with visual sensitivity (neuro-divergence or other), or because someone has a certain mobile phone, or because someone never plays normal / arena games.

So to be clear I'm not calling for the new interface to be utterly scrapped, but I think some small adjustments would make it far better for many users -- e.g. getting rid of avatars entirely on the mobile view.
Avatars were never a problem in the old format, i don't think that's the issue here (and there are many to pick from)

Another example, moving holiday joker trigger to the far top right so it overlaps with the player profile avatar used to trigger the side bar. That's not a great move, placing it where you constantly are moving to and clicking

Why does clicking on the game blob orange in my case, as TB games ongoing, otherwise green, not open the tables in progress page anymore but force opens the side bar? Removal of this link means middle click on it no longer opens the progress page in a new tab, which i would often do.

The more I'm forced to use this new page the more problems I find with it.
Hmm, have you found a solution to reveal the usernames on narrow screens in Firefox? I'm definitely interested in a GreaseMonkey or similar script, though I'd prefer to avoid an entire custom extension unless I have to.

I don't personally feel the avatars add value, since a lot of them are stock images, and anyone wanting to see who is at a table and who is playing next probably won't be using the avatars -- AND those of us affected by visual noise would be happier without the avatars on the list.
Do you mean in the side menu? Not yet but working on it. I've got the main page looking ok on desktop but I have a widescreen so it was never an issue. Are you on mobile? I've yet to brave looking at the car crash I'm told it is.