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Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 22 July 2026, 05:54
by FrankJones
I must say, it takes a special kind of stupid for a human to allow SEVEN plants to be vaporized by Tfmbot on literally the first action of the game.
And then 5 more next gen with Virus, and then 4 more with big asteroid.
AT the very least, Tfmbot was programed to be a major A-hole with regard to killing plants.
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 22 July 2026, 06:04
by FrankJones
Oh no. Major Tfmbot FAIL.
TFMbot just used Robinson to increase titanium. Then it played AMC at full cost.. on itself!
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 22 July 2026, 10:35
by landus
Half of these „mistakes” sound possibly correct. I played a game vs tfmbot today and it performed much better than before! It played surprisingly well at the start. However gen9/gen10 were played just horribly (turning a somewhat equal game into 20vp difference).
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 22 July 2026, 12:33
by Curse Words
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=886844932
I played a game against the bot today, and imo it performed quite poorly (I scored 145 vs its 77). The drafting decisions are generally good but it was sitting with a LOT of money and just passing directly every generation. However, I was playing UNMI (it played vitor) and it passed me a bumper in the draft at the start of the game when I already had 4 energy so that allowed me to just use my UNMI ability every single gen. Even at the last generation it seemed to just give up and didn't use up its money. I think it didn't even fight for the milestones allowing me to claim all 3. I feel like that game was played against a 250 elo player.
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 22 July 2026, 23:04
by FrankJones
Okay, I give up. I bow to the almighty TfmBot.
I'm going to go cry in the corner with a glass of bourbon.
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 23 July 2026, 00:07
by Curse Words
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=886994644
I played another game against the bot and again completely destroyed it 143 v 73. I swept all milestones again as well as the awards. The bot had so many misplays, and it again sat on a ton of money every round and just passed with >50. Some of its draft decisions are also questionable e.g. passing me optimal aerobraking and standard tech. It had really good cards also e.g. drawing TG and europa from WASA, then having earth cat RA and viral.
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 23 July 2026, 00:53
by FrankJones
Curse Words wrote: ↑23 July 2026, 00:07
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=886994644
I played another game against the bot and again completely destroyed it 143 v 73. I swept all milestones again as well as the awards. The bot had so many misplays, and it again sat on a ton of money every round and just passed with >50. Some of its draft decisions are also questionable e.g. passing me optimal aerobraking and standard tech. It had really good cards also e.g. drawing TG and europa from WASA, then having earth cat RA and viral.
Yeah, that happened in my first four games.
Then, the next 3:
"Oh, cool, it's playing one s-tier card after another".
People talk about early plant production as though they are such great cards, so I figured, "okay, I'll try it" Even though I usually think it's a stupid strategy.
And what happened? Deimos, Comet, Virus, Big asteroid, etc.
I mean, for the three in a row I lost, LOOK AT THE CARDS THE TfmBOt was dealt. Are you serious ???
What am I supposed to do when my two best preludes were donation and some other garbage, and TfmBot gets Phobolog and space agency and draws giant ice while also holding two other Huge space events? By the end of gen 3, it had a TR of 30 and massive income. I F_ck_ing hate preludes. I literally got dealt Donation, eccentric sponsor, societal support, and that stupid city prelude.
Cool. Meanwhile, by the time the Tfm Bot was finished playing its preludes and gen 1 cards, it had 35 MC worth of income. okaaaay. gg.
I mean, I'm not playing societal support. Ever. Burn that card please. And I had no card for eccentric sponsor. So I had donation and the stupid city prelude. It was gen NINE before I actually did a plant conversion next to that city because TFMBot killed 20 of my plants.
WTF am I supposed to do there ????
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 23 July 2026, 01:18
by Yahyra
Thanks to everyone who posted here, including of course 'AReallyGoodName123'.
I am a journeyman neural network implementer looking to learn; anyone (including AReallyGoodName) who is willing to chat with me on the configuration of this bot, I would love to learn.
(I am happy to chat on or off BGA).
Thanks!
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 23 July 2026, 01:54
by FrankJones
Seriously, Heat trappers EVERY DAMN GAME?
Re: Early version of an AI you can practice TFM against
Posted: 23 July 2026, 04:58
by Lytical
Frank AI doesn't think, you can exploit that, it's really fun to string AI along. Think about how it behaves right now and you will always win(mostly). I messed up twice, but that's on me, I have yet to have an unwinable game.