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Beardou wrote: ↑09 October 2024, 08:17What I want is to create an Ark Nova tournament with 14 people, with a new match starting every week for 13 weeks.
But 7 days is a bit short for the duration of a match, in my previous editions of this tournament, many matches ended with a time limit.
So I wanted to create a calendar with a start every week, but a duration limited to 15 days... and that's not possible, and I don't understand why the interface is set up like that!

Feel free to upvote: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=8591

The report was made in 2017, so I'm sure BGA will address this issue any day now.

Thank you for the link ! Indeed, it seems that's not really a priority for The dev team x)

Couple questions on arranging match date for tournaments, all for turn-based 2 player games, generally 5 day game duration so a 6 match event can be finished in a month for monthly tournaments:

When scheduling match dates for tournaments I see that the matches need to be spaced out a least as far as the game duration. Match 1 scheduling references "Match 0" in the text and says it needs to be X days after the start of Match 0. Has it been confirmed with devs the Match 0 is part of the code and is technically correct? If so, Match 0 must be the first match that starts immediately at tournament start. Does that mean that "Match 1" in the scheduling refers to the match AFTER the first match (Match 0)?

For Round Robin tournaments the match scheduling should ideally be more relaxed than it currently is. Match scheduling is clearly programed specifically for Swiss/ Single Elimination where results are needed for pairings. The only options available right now seem to be having all games start at once, or manually scheduling the matches far apart so they happen 1 at a time. Are there any workarounds? Most games I play generally finish in 2-3 days across different time zones so I would like to stagger the matches 2 days apart but keep the match duration 5 days. This way my hypothetical tournament can proceed at a reasonable pace without having to start all games at once and overwhelming players. I will gladly engage in any requested other forum posts or contact BGA to make a request for update. All we need is to remove 1 restriction from scheduling match date for Round Robin tournaments, even better if there's a simple drag down option to select how far apart to schedule the games.

Lastly, been playing around a lot with Group Stage tournament setups. No matter what I do only Match 1-5 can be scheduled regardless of tournament types for each stage and minimum/maximum player size. If anyone knows any workaround let me know. It would be great if the Match number got extended along with the RR fix above so I can host a group stage with RR first stage, groups of 8 and stagger the game starts.

I started BGA this year and pay for Premium to support the website and the games, but also so I can contribute to my community by hosting tournaments. It's frustrating that the tournament modes are so limited and haven't been updated in a long time based on looking through the forums.

BananaHarambe wrote: ↑31 October 2024, 17:44 Most games I play generally finish in 2-3 days across different time zones so I would like to stagger the matches 2 days apart but keep the match duration 5 days.

Bug reports and suggestions related to round-robin scheduling:

https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=8591 (currently 84 upvotes)
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=19426 (currently 19 upvotes)
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=25781 (currently 3 upvotes)
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=39909 (currently 27 upvotes)
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=116909 (currently 3 upvotes)

Mathew5000 wrote: ↑31 October 2024, 22:27

Bug reports and suggestions related to round-robin scheduling:

Thank you Mathew5000. I am really hoping to see some advancements and bug fixing to tournaments on this site.

As a premium member, is there any way I can influence how my BGA membership fees get used? I know that the game publishers get paid based on percentage of hours premium players play their games so playing games I like will help them. Any way to influence BGA.com? I have little interest in new games being added to this site and would rather see tournament mode updates and bug fixes for games.

BananaHarambe wrote: ↑12 November 2024, 20:55 As a premium member, is there any way I can influence how my BGA membership fees get used? I know that the game publishers get paid based on percentage of hours premium players play their games so playing games I like will help them. Any way to influence BGA.com? I have little interest in new games being added to this site and would rather see tournament mode updates and bug fixes for games.

Not really. You can vote for suggestions/bugs you want fixed, but there are some likely easy-to-fix, much-requested things that are routinely ignored. You can also post your opinion in the forums, but there's a lot of strongly held opinions there that are also ignored. I mean, if you say and do nothing, they have no idea what your preferences are, whereas if you vote and/or comment they at least know, so I think the latter is the better choice, but don't expect too much is all I'm saying.

For round robin tie breakers, either in group stage or round robin tournament I understand the main tiebreaker is point difference. I want to know the effects of an unethical player using timeouts to affect it. It’s for a 2 player game so no spoiler effect.

However, what happens if a player abuses timeouts on the games they are losing? For example instead of losing by 20 points they just sit there losing and time out? Default score is 1-0 loss for timeout so they have less points difference.

Would the tournament detect these timeouts and penalize the player?

If it doesn’t, I know doing this would be against TOS, intentionally taking a long time when losing, timing out on purpose so the player could get ejected from the tournament via a BGA admin if reported

BananaHarambe wrote: ↑18 November 2024, 09:04 However, what happens if a player abuses timeouts on the games they are losing? For example instead of losing by 20 points they just sit there losing and time out? Default score is 1-0 loss for timeout so they have less points difference.

I'm curious about this as well. A similar issue was raised here: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32475 though that question related to conceding a game, not timing out.

BrigBother wrote: ↑13 September 2023, 18:14The way BGA assesses this result is effectively 1-0 when the actual results if it played to completion may be something like 27-15, and as a 1 on 1 game and likely to be played as a Round Robin, or with a Round Robin element, points difference matters and here BGA is effectively incentivising resigning as that's always going to be a better result than seeing it through.

Are you sure nothing changed on tie breakers ? It seems to me that many round robin tournaments now use "points earned by your opponents" as a tie breaker, and then the cumulative ELO of your opponents.

Rwain wrote: ↑19 November 2024, 00:44 Are you sure nothing changed on tie breakers ? It seems to me that many round robin tournaments now use "points earned by your opponents" as a tie breaker, and then the cumulative ELO of your opponents.

I think you're confused between Swiss System and Round Robin. As far as I know, nothing has changed in how Round Robins operate on BGA. For example, here are three recently-begun Round Robin tournaments; you can see that they are using score difference as a tiebreaker, not "opponents' tournament points":

https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=339071
https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=337296
https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=339200

(It really would be illogical to use "points earned by your opponents" as a tiebreaker in a round robin, because "your opponents" in a round robin are every player other than you.)