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Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 19 July 2024, 00:22
by Rufasu
I think we can use probabilities for everything, but there are actually many games where the dice are too biased and one-sided.
I think there is a need to investigate that instead of just looking at the dice.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 19 July 2024, 00:28
by Nekojin
Go ahead. Investigate it, using proper scientific methodology. We'll wait.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 20 July 2024, 01:52
by Rufasu
I have done over 1000 catans here and frequently experience the same pattern of dice rolls.
I would like to see something other than the total value of the dice rolls properly.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 20 July 2024, 02:20
by Rufasu
This is a translation error and will be corrected.
I would like to see something other than the total value of the dice rolls checked properly.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 20 July 2024, 12:01
by Rufasu
To report the situation in more detail, there is a pattern in the dice rolls that appear in each game.
In other words, there are many games in which the person whose dice rolls out wins hands down.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 20 July 2024, 12:24
by Rufasu
Google Translate doesn't translate well.
My point is that many matches are dominated by players with specific numbers.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 20 July 2024, 13:40
by Jellby
Yes, so? That's what random dice do.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 20 July 2024, 16:19
by Rufasu
It is rash to say that everything is random.
True random numbers must have variation.
Bad programs have bias.
The BGA's Catan shows signs of this.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 20 July 2024, 16:36
by Cos-
Rufasu wrote: ↑20 July 2024, 16:19
It is rash to say that everything is random.
True random numbers must have variation.
Bad programs have bias.
The BGA's Catan shows signs of this.
You keep saying that, but haven't presented actual evidence. This thread is full of people who misunderstand randomness and probability, finding patterns in the dice rolls where if you actually look at the numbers, it looks very plausible that they're just random. So having one more person say "no, I really see patterns" is not at all convincing. I highly doubt it.
You can view the replays of all your games. Make a list, record all the sequences of dice rolls you saw, and show us both the dice sequences and the links to the games you looked at.
Re: dice used in catan is biased
Posted: 20 July 2024, 17:10
by Jellby
Seeing patterns after the fact is useless. If you can predict patterns, use then to your advantage and win more games
