Keep AI Away From BGA

[Shivaware]

Regarding the portions of my old post you quoted: I am fairly certain I already acknowledged my inappropriate tone in the portions you quoted, and that I apologized for them and entirely re-wrote that post, removing the harsh and judgmental language you quoted.

You are mistaken. You edited a different post containing such language, but the quoted material still remains in a separate post.

Edit: The original post has now been edited, so I've removed the quote as well.

The tiny arrow next to your name is actually a link to the post in question.

[Ceaseless]

You spent about as much of that post taking direct shots at them unrelated to anything they said as you did actually disputing the topic itself.

There was not much to answer to their actual post. They just talked about how non-premium members are oh so useful to the site and acted like it's some sort of 'gotcha' when it's not. It's not a valid counter to anything that was said earlier in the discussion.

What is next? "People who pirate movies are actually the best viewers because they generate so much traffic for the movies. Viewers who pay are actually bad because if everyone paid then no one would watch movies anymore." What sort of backwards logic is that?

I didn't say anything about the part of your post discussing the topic, my post was about the other half that was not. The half that was just you firing off at them unrelated to their point. You having a short reply doesn't mean you need to double its size with this.

[FrankJones]

come on dude. This TV cost as much as some of our cars, and you aren't paying for premium?

And the discussion about what to do with your disposable income being a choice rears its head again.

Yes, but that was a personal anecdote consisting of dialog among our "real-life" social circle, where we joke around with one another in a manner that nobody in the social circle objects to.

[FrankJones]

Regarding the portions of my old post you quoted: I am fairly certain I already acknowledged my inappropriate tone in the portions you quoted, and that I apologized for them and entirely re-wrote that post, removing the harsh and judgmental language you quoted.

You are mistaken. You edited a different post containing such language, but the quoted material still remains in a separate post.

Fine. I concur.

Then every non -premium player should pay up the 12 cents a day to give BGA more revenue.

These cheapskate losers shouldn't be paying $0.00 and the whining like losers. Websites cost money to maintain.

The tiny arrow next to your name is actually a link to the post in question.

Whoops. I then apologize again, because my intent was to edit/remove that part as well. I will take care of that now. Honest blunder on my part, I meant to remove all the hostile language, and I did not realize I hadn't done so.

[Thank you for calling this to my attention. I revised that post. Again, my apologies to all for my initial blunder and then for my second blunder in failing to address the first blunder.]

[Shivaware]

Whoops. I then apologize again, because my intent was to edit/remove that part as well. I will take care of that now. Honest blunder on my part, I meant to remove all the hostile language, and I did not realize I hadn't done so.

[Thank you for calling this to my attention. I revised that post. Again, my apologies to all for my initial blunder and then for my second blunder in failing to address the first blunder.]

I appreciate your willingness to gracefully respond to criticism, which as you mentioned, is somewhat rare on the internet.

Unfortunately, there's a chance you may have edited the wrong post. The one I quoted is at the very bottom of page 2 of this thread, and does not appear to be revised. The BGA forum seems to have a bug with linking to specific posts and it's often necessary to do some scrolling to find the linked one.

[FrankJones]

Dang it!

Okay, while I have my dinner, I am going to carefully review all my earlier posts. Apparently, I went on multiple rants and lost track of them.

Mental note to self: When waking up with a headache and a vague sense of "I'm pretty sure I wrote some things I need to go delete", don't just stop at the first one because there might be more.

[tbhp]

I didn't say anything about the part of your post discussing the topic, my post was about the other half that was not. The half that was just you firing off at them unrelated to their point. You having a short reply doesn't mean you need to double its size with this.

It is related though, I pointed out how their position on this topic is in line with the other positions I've seen them hold on other topics. They are someone who always seems to defend the people on the wrong sides of situations, at the expense of people who are behaving better or contributing more. I don't understand why they have this need to do that.

Obviously it's not related to the exact topic at hand, but we are allowed to criticize recurrent trends in a person's posts, and they conveniently escaped the argument by using the fact that my post was partly off topic, in order to not address the part that was on topic. They are being disingenuous in most of their posts on this forum, both when replying to me and to other users, and after a certain point you have to call it out, because how can you get anywhere with someone who never argues in good faith?

[tbhp]

No idea. The moment I realized I could get rid of all YouTube ads for $12.99 a month, I signed up immediately and never looked back. YouTube is my main website/app for music (which is almost exclusively what I use YouTube for), so for me personally, having ads would be asinine.

Ads on Youtube seem particularly asinine, because they defeat the point of many of the types of videos that Youtube is useful for. Want to watch something relaxing? Certainly an ad showing up in the middle of that is going to destroy the whole experience you were going for. Want to watch a musical clip or composition? An ad is putting a sudden break on a work that is designed to be experienced without break.

And while we watch YouTube on his Gigantic TV, yes, we do actually make fu of him every time an ad comes on, because... come on dude. This TV cost as much as some of our cars, and you aren't paying for premium?

To be fair, this might not necessarily be a stupidity or priority thing. If you are someone who is against ads, you might also not find it normal to have to pay not to get ads (depending on whether the offer is well intentioned or just another capitalistic tactic).

All in all, ads need to die, because they are fundamentally illogical and wasteful. They use concrete resources and effort to create a product that people are not going to care about, a product that exists just for the purpose of reallocating money, a virtual currency. How about we find a way to get the money where we want it to be without wasting resources on productions that we don't actually need?

[Cile]

and they conveniently escaped the argument by using the fact that my post was partly off topic, in order to not address the part that was on topic.

The part you claim was on topic argued against a point I did not make, you built a strawman and attributed it to me. Considering you were arguing against a point I did not make I felt no need to defend it.

You claim I'm being disingenuous while inventing false arguments and attributing them to me, and you do not understand the difference between attacking an argument and attacking the person making it.

I'm not interested.

[Cile]

Dang it!

Okay, while I have my dinner, I am going to carefully review all my earlier posts. Apparently, I went on multiple rants and lost track of them.

Mental note to self: When waking up with a headache and a vague sense of "I'm pretty sure I wrote some things I need to go delete", don't just stop at the first one because there might be more.

I appreciate that. The fact that it was still posted, and that you replied to my earlier quoting of it with

If it sounds judgy, good. It should.

Seemed to indicate you were still defending that statement. I'm glad to see that is not the case. The attitude of looking down upon free users as being acceptable punching bags that better just shut up and appreciate what they are given was mainly what I was arguing against. I agree that people should support the services they use if they can, but that doesn't mean those who don't should be looked down on or treated poorly.