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News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 12 February 2017, 20:32
by Een
This news is mostly for translators from the community helping to translate Board Game Arena from English into so many languages (currently 34), but it may also interest other players who love to know how things work ;)

When we publish a new annoucement on our welcome page, we write it twice, once in English for everyone speaking English, and once in French, because since we are French, it looks like a thing we can and should do! So for English and French speaking players, that's the end of the story. But of course, since anyone in the world can access Board Game Arena through the internet, there is a lot of people interested in playing board games who don't necessarily speak English. That's why we made it possible to translate the website and games, and we have been amazed by the response of the community on this to allow such a large number of players to play in their native language.

The news, though, were not included in the system. For a long time, they were just in English for other languages (except French). That was unsatisfactory, because it made the welcome page linguistically heterogeneous (not pretty :) ) and because non English speaking players could not figure it out. So we made a change to use machine translation to translate the news in other languages. Of course this was not perfect, since translation is a difficult task that computers haven't mastered (yet). But it allowed to have a nicer welcome page using the same language everywhere, and players speaking only those languages could at least get an idea of what was going on.

Now, we have gone to the next step, and integrated this first machine translation into the same translation system as for the site and games. This means that any player understanding English can now help make the translations better in his/her native language!
So if you see that the computer really messed it up, now you can just fix it ;)

You can access the translation interface by clicking on the "Improve translation" button on the "humans versus computer" translation progress bar above each news on the welcome page (including this one!). Changes are taken into account every hour, so translations can improve quickly to benefit the maximum number of readers.

For example, here is how the translation progress bar looks in Italian:
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It was a frequent request from translators to be able to improve the news quality in other languages: we are really happy to provide this new functionnality and we hope that it will be appreciated by translators (who we would like to thank again for their help in making Board Game Arena more accessible and welcoming to such a large audience) and of course by readers!

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 12 February 2017, 21:29
by Cuval
The idea of being able to translate the news is pretty great :). Most people in my country speak English well enough, though I am sure many will be helped by this.

I translated one sentence, but it keeps showing the news in English for me, even while the rest of the site is in my native language Dutch. The translate button keeps giving the standard translation.

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 12 February 2017, 21:38
by Pseudomonas
Should the fixed text appear instantly? Couse i typed some and nothing changed

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 12 February 2017, 21:56
by Een
Cuval wrote:The idea of being able to translate the news is pretty great :). Most people in my country speak English well enough, though I am sure many will be helped by this.
Thanks! Glad you like the idea and find it useful :)
Cuval wrote:I translated one sentence, but it keeps showing the news in English for me, even while the rest of the site is in my native language Dutch. The translate button keeps giving the standard translation.
You may have set in the past your profile language preferences to see the text for news in English by default instead of the translation.

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 12 February 2017, 21:58
by Een
Pseudomonas wrote:Should the fixed text appear instantly? Couse i typed some and nothing changed
Changes are taken into account once per hour so as not to overload the servers with contant checking.

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 13 February 2017, 04:05
by fawls13
I don't see any 'Improve Translation' button on my computer. I am running on a Mac and English is my chosen language in settings. I think this is a great idea and in general the English is excellent on the site. At times I do notice some things in English that could be improved and would be happy to do so if I had a means.

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 13 February 2017, 09:48
by Een
fawls13 wrote:I don't see any 'Improve Translation' button on my computer. I am running on a Mac and English is my chosen language in settings.
Well, yes, that functionnality is for translation in other languages than English and French :D

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 13 February 2017, 10:01
by Ippokratis
I wanted to press the "like" button for another great idea in BGA but there isn't any... ;)

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 13 February 2017, 16:48
by leo_rockway
Een wrote:
fawls13 wrote:I don't see any 'Improve Translation' button on my computer. I am running on a Mac and English is my chosen language in settings.
Well, yes, that functionnality is for translation in other languages than English and French :D
I use BGA in English, but I would like to help with translations. Is it possible to do so without having to change my default language to the target language?

Re: News translation from English to other languages

Posted: 13 February 2017, 17:07
by Een
leo_rockway wrote: I use BGA in English, but I would like to help with translations. Is it possible to do so without having to change my default language to the target language?
For website and games, yes. You can go to the translation headquarters (Community / Help us translate Board Game Arena) then choose the language you want to translate to.

For the news, you have to switch to the target language then click on "Improve translation" in the progress bar above the news to access the translation page for the news.

Overall, it's better if translators use BGA in the language they translate to, as this allows to spot mistakes or inconsistencies more easily.