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Daggerheart
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7 Wonders

Postby Daggerheart » 13 July 2018, 16:28

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RicardoRix
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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby RicardoRix » 13 July 2018, 17:18

lifted straight from here right:

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/691370 ... ers/page/1

do you ask for permission?

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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby Daggerheart » 13 July 2018, 21:43

I credit the author by name. BGG posts are not copyrighted.

I don't post stuff from retail books or similar. BGG posts can be deleted or similar. I help save the guides for the future.

What is you problem really??

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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby RicardoRix » 13 July 2018, 22:40

so no, you don't ask for permission.
It's the authors intent for it to be read on BGG, that's why it was posted there. nothing is ever going to get 'lost'.

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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby nandblock » 15 July 2018, 05:11

Any piece of writing, including a forum post, is automatically copyright the author. Crediting them while reproducing their writing without permission does not make it any less of a violation of copyright. You need their express permission to republish it on your site.

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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby nmego » 15 July 2018, 09:24

nandblock wrote:Any piece of writing, including a forum post, is automatically copyright the author. Crediting them while reproducing their writing without permission does not make it any less of a violation of copyright. You need their express permission to republish it on your site.


That's interesting, do you have any sources of the bolded part?

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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby nandblock » 15 July 2018, 10:08

Uh, the Berne Convention?

Setting aside the general question, in this particular case Daggerheart has violated the BGG Terms of Service: https://boardgamegeek.com/terms

Specifically:
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This makes it clear that users retain the rights to their content, although BGG is licensed to make use of that content.

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This makes it clear that users aren't allowed to swipe stuff off the site without permission.

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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby Daggerheart » 15 July 2018, 13:59

A post on a public forum non-password protected gives copyright?? Sounds strange to me.

I will ask him to be sure then.

1) I don't have any ads or anything, and it's not a commercial site/blog I run
2) I only want to endorse board gaming and preserve strategy guides for the future (posts gets deleted/sites can get shut down and similar)
3) People that post guides at BGG want people that love the same game to read what they share. I just help them endorse this. They get credited with their name
4) At the BGG forum there can be tons of posts, I destill the best information to players interested in a game. The guides/info become more accessible

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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby nandblock » 15 July 2018, 15:48

You know, if I delete a post I wrote, then I'm not expecting or asking for some dude to keep it in print. If I deleted it, I want it DELETED--I certainly don't want it reprinted "with credit"! What's hard to grasp about this?

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Re: Strategy guide 7 Wonders

Postby Daggerheart » 15 July 2018, 15:59

nandblock wrote:You know, if I delete a post I wrote, then I'm not expecting or asking for some dude to keep it in print. If I deleted it, I want it DELETED--I certainly don't want it reprinted "with credit"! What's hard to grasp about this?


BGG have banned several of their users. Their accounts gets deleted and all that they posted. Why they delete users? Often due to that they can't handle people that write something negative on their site. It's like Russia with strong censorship of opinions they don't like. This is the deleting I refer too, not deleting by users themselves. But it's pretty clear I have more knowledge about this than you.

What BGG don't like? Talk about competition in board games, critizism of their rating lists which are extremly bad. If you disagree with "pets" of the moderators or the moderator's opinion about some of these topics, you can get warnings and bans. If a user get deleted, what can he do? He is not allowed to tell the other users what happend. So basicly he is permanent shut down and silenced.


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