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Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 14 August 2018, 21:10
by pottereuel
Earlier today, 8/14/18, Boardgamearena server would not allow the epithet: jerk. I object.
A large part of boardgaming is the repertoire. We insult each other with each turn. It's now called trash talk, but it's how games are played. Eliminate all censors. Battle filth if you must, but don't kill conversation.
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 14 August 2018, 21:26
by N_Faker
Stick to one thread, will you.
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There is a zero-tolerance policy on insults on this site.
The word filter merely warns you that there may be consequences to you posting whatever you wrote, but it does not prevent you from doing so.
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 15 August 2018, 03:11
by pottereuel
How do zero-tolerance and free expression coexist?
Answer: They don't.
Pick one.
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 15 August 2018, 04:34
by pottereuel
You stand at a threshold. You choose freedom or intolerance. Do not choose intolerance.
Life is hard, life is free, life is brutal. Cage the net, you cage us ALL.
You exist because freedom is. Your future is with liberty, not autocracy. Go forth. Build mighty fortresses. Bring Peace through liberty.
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 15 August 2018, 09:38
by Jest Phulin
You have freedom. You have the freedom to create your own website, to get the licenses to host your own games, and the freedom to do all the work and coding necessary to run that website.
Here you are a guest. If you do not like the methods used to try to keep the peace, you are free to leave.
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 16 August 2018, 01:14
by Thomcat
I am not that familiar with "moderation".
Are you saying the moderators will be notified and have to examine games on a case-by-case basis?
Seems a little harsh for "jerk", which is pretty minor trash talk.
I can understand how profanity would be bad, especially on a family-oriented site, but jerk?
Please help me understand the reasoning.
--Thom
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 16 August 2018, 01:40
by N_Faker
Thomcat wrote:Are you saying the moderators will be notified and have to examine games on a case-by-case basis?
It may not be limited to single games, but yes, reports are handled on a case-by-case basis.
Any forms of insults, swearing, inappropriate or aggressive behaviour may result in moderation.
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 19 August 2018, 12:44
by Paddles
When we come to BGA, we are playing in someone else's house - specifically Een and Sourisdudesert. They are perfectly entitled to decide what they want their house to be like. If they don't want people trash talking in their house, they're entitled to do what they can to prevent it. If they want to play deathmetal with the speakers turned up to 11, they're also entitled to do that.
If there's something we don't like about their house, we can make a polite suggestion or request and hope they change it. They might listen, or they might not; a well-reasoned argument seems more likely to be persuasive than tossing insults at them, particularly ridiculous ones like suggesting they're perpetrators of intolerance. This is a gaming site, not an international court.
If we still don't like their house, we can also go somewhere else; no-one is forcing us to keep visiting their house.
If we have paid money to visit their house, the above still applies. Paying money doesn't give us the right to insult the hosts.
(For the record, I'm quite happy not to have trash-talk here. )
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 19 August 2018, 19:07
by Cappie
pottereuel wrote:Earlier today, 8/14/18, Boardgamearena server would not allow the epithet: jerk. I object.
A large part of boardgaming is the repertoire. We insult each other with each turn. It's now called trash talk, but it's how games are played. Eliminate all censors. Battle filth if you must, but don't kill conversation.
Its how games are played? Do you decide that for everyone?
Re: Do not inhibit free expression of thought
Posted: 21 August 2018, 04:51
by Liallan
Cappie wrote:pottereuel wrote:Earlier today, 8/14/18, Boardgamearena server would not allow the epithet: jerk. I object.
A large part of boardgaming is the repertoire. We insult each other with each turn. It's now called trash talk, but it's how games are played. Eliminate all censors. Battle filth if you must, but don't kill conversation.
Its how games are played? Do you decide that for everyone?
+1
It's OK if everyone at the table thinks it's OK, like if this is your friends or something, but you can't decide that for everyone else. I doubt your friends would report you. Then you just have to ignore the warnings - those warnings aren't reporting you.
(And there is a difference between freedom and anarchy.)