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BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 22 October 2018, 09:41
by Czochrun
Hi!
I don't know is this correct forum, so I wrote here:

Why rank in diagrams shows diffrents information than in ELO rank?
And why stats in Premium account are so poor?

Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 22 October 2018, 22:29
by Jest Phulin
Czochrun wrote:And why stats in Premium account are so poor?
Because poor players support the site as well. :) Or are you saying that if people support the site by being Premium, that they should get an advantage over non-members? That people should be able to buy wins?

There is no in-game advantage to being a Premium member. They are able to open tables of some games that non-members can't create, and they (at least used to, but I don't remember for sure) were the only ones who could create tournaments. But getting better rolls, having AI strategy help, getting a bump in rankings, or anything else ranking related is not included.

Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 23 October 2018, 00:28
by RicardoRix
Jest Phulin wrote:
Czochrun wrote:And why stats in Premium account are so poor?
Because poor players support the site as well. :) Or are you saying that if people support the site by being Premium, that they should get an advantage over non-members? That people should be able to buy wins?

There is no in-game advantage to being a Premium member. They are able to open tables of some games that non-members can't create, and they (at least used to, but I don't remember for sure) were the only ones who could create tournaments. But getting better rolls, having AI strategy help, getting a bump in rankings, or anything else ranking related is not included.
How and where are you inferring this? I think he's just suggesting that the he was expecting the stats to be better. What stats he was expecting idk.
It *used* to be that standard users had stats numbers and ELO hidden.
Statistics
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Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 23 October 2018, 07:31
by Czochrun
Jest Phulin wrote:
Czochrun wrote:And why stats in Premium account are so poor?
Because poor players support the site as well. :) Or are you saying that if people support the site by being Premium, that they should get an advantage over non-members? That people should be able to buy wins?

There is no in-game advantage to being a Premium member. They are able to open tables of some games that non-members can't create, and they (at least used to, but I don't remember for sure) were the only ones who could create tournaments. But getting better rolls, having AI strategy help, getting a bump in rankings, or anything else ranking related is not included.
Whaat?
I didn't mention that! In any moment.
I pay for premium and I expect better statistics. Not only average points, average tokent takens... I want to know how many times I was 1st, 2nd, 3rd in this boardgame. What is my best/worst score in this boardgame, . Do I prefer 2 players game or 3 players game, etc. It is easy to done.
Instead I get many average info.
I paid for Premium but I don't know if I will extend it.

Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 23 October 2018, 15:59
by sourisdudesert
Hi

Thanks for suggesting additional statistics.

To be honest this is not something that is frequently asked : if you check this Suggestions forum or suggestion in "bugs" section, players preferred having new games on BGA, and most of our efforts are focused on this goal.

But at some point in the future we will certainly improve the statistics panel as well.

Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 23 October 2018, 16:22
by Caffe Latte
Guys, you really made my day laughing for thinking that this
>>And why stats in Premium account are so poor?

Means complaining about premium member low ELO :D :D i wish I had so sophisticated imagination.

As to the reporting improvement, thanks, Souris, for the hope given, I also look forward to useful info.

Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 24 October 2018, 00:50
by Jest Phulin
The English language can be tricky.

"Why are stats so poor" can be interpreted as "why are the actual numbers in the statistics poor" as well as "why are there not as many numbers available in the statistics."

I made an error in my interpretation. I apologize.

Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 30 October 2018, 05:11
by Liallan
I interpreted it the exact same way Jest did. OP wasn't exactly clear. He did say the stats "in the premium accounts." That's not the same as the stats that are all over the site that premium members can see. It was a literal interpretation.

The reason there's nothing funny about the interpretation is that people say all sorts of strange things around here, or have you really not noticed that?

Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 30 October 2018, 10:15
by Een
Liallan wrote:I interpreted it the exact same way Jest did. OP wasn't exactly clear. He did say the stats "in the premium accounts." That's not the same as the stats that are all over the site that premium members can see. It was a literal interpretation.

The reason there's nothing funny about the interpretation is that people say all sorts of strange things around here, or have you really not noticed that?
Please remember that not everyone is a native English speaker. Op is from Poland.

Actually most people on BGA are not native English speakers. In an international context it's especially useful to always keep in mind that not everyone commands the same mastery of the language used to communicate. So there can be misunderstandings, especially about humour (because there is also a cultural element there) and irony (because it's sometimes difficult to grasp by nature even for native speakers of the same language).

So the recommendation on this is that if many interpretations are possible, always choose the most positive one to follow up on. It's usually the good one because except for trolls most people have good intentions. And even for trolls, it's good because it can throw them off track ;)

Re: BGA Premium and Rank

Posted: 30 October 2018, 16:18
by Cappie
Een wrote: So the recommendation on this is that if many interpretations are possible, always choose the most positive one to follow up on.
People should also implement this in real life... :D

If many interpretations are possible, please always choose the most positive one to follow up on. Life would be so much better if people tried to do this.