Cheating or just 'unfair'

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Smich
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Cheating or just 'unfair'

Post by Smich » 08 October 2019, 14:33

Please, can you explain something to me. I wonder if a player cheated, or is this behaviour normal,, and I am too sensitive?

Case:Carcassone, Inns and Cathedrals.
Four players.
Two players start to compete on one city and as it grows they start to cooperate. I am fine with that.
What I am not fine with is that one of the players after his move tells to the other one in the chat which tile he has. It was directly leading and enabling the other player to finish the city on their mutual benfit.

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Re: Cheating or just 'unfair'

Post by CB Droege » 08 October 2019, 14:51

In the rules, it explicitly says that you can say whatever you want at the table to try to get people to put their piece where you want them to put it. You shouldn't be allowed to actually show your piece, but the game doesn't allow that anyway. I don't think this was cheating, or even unfair. If two players choose to cooperate like that, it's a legitimate strategy. Though they should each be wary of the other trying to trick them.

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Re: Cheating or just 'unfair'

Post by Smich » 08 October 2019, 15:19

You say that game doesn't allow showing the other person a tile... but if a player says: ((strategic game, visible 3 tiles in advance) ... if they say 'I have a cap to close this city' ... and that makes the other not put the new extension to the city but harvest the points... doesn't that count as 'showing' the tile?

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Re: Cheating or just 'unfair'

Post by RicardoRix » 08 October 2019, 17:12

the tile is either visible or not.

if it is visible then it's only re-iterating information already known.
if it's not visible, then they guy might be lying.

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Re: Cheating or just 'unfair'

Post by CB Droege » 09 October 2019, 09:57

Exactly. There is a vast tactical difference between seeing another players hand, and having them tell you what is in it.

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Re: Cheating or just 'unfair'

Post by Smich » 13 October 2019, 13:45

Thanks for thoughts and answers... Much appreciated

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