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possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 30 June 2020, 20:51
by ZeroGravity0
Hi all,

I think that some players are doing king-making plays.

I tend to see many replays of top-10 players, cause it helps me understand the logics of this game.
But I found something weird.
I saw that some player played with the same one player (I would not like to mention the names of them, but you guys may see obvious king-making plays). He got within top 10, but playing without his sidekick, he fell down pretty quickly.
Whenever the two guys play in the same game, one guy almost always (~90%) win, and I saw through the replays that the side-kick always pass better cards for his lord.

I think that this should not be admitted, so after I played several times with him, I pressed "public thumb down" button so that other players can also avoid playing with those pairs. The managers of this website hopefully investigate the two guys.

Any opinions would be highly appreciated. I admit that I might be wrong.

Thanks, and let's do fair plays!

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 01 July 2020, 18:55
by 6element
Without naming specific players this actually sounds slightly offensive to many. The only top player you've played many times with I recognize is should and he is pretty strong, I can assure you he doesn't need a sidekick :)

Taking into account the fact that you've been playing mostly Arena, do you see a reliable way to get a sidekick into a game?

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 01 July 2020, 20:01
by ZeroGravity0
6element wrote: 01 July 2020, 18:55 Without naming specific players this actually sounds slightly offensive to many. The only top player you've played many times with I recognize is should and he is pretty strong, I can assure you he doesn't need a sidekick :)

Taking into account the fact that you've been playing mostly Arena, do you see a reliable way to get a sidekick into a game?
Thank you for your opinion, 6element -- I also saw many replays of yours, recognizing you as a strong player as well!

First of all, "should" is definitely very strong player, and he is not appropriating sidekicks or teamplays. He's really polite as well.

All right. Let me just mention the name of the player I saw: Iyashinosato

I noticed this ID showed within top 20ish, top 10ish, and even top 5ish -- so I tried to analyze his plays.
But I found that this ID played a lot with East_Ronin.
And I was almost convinced all recent games with East_Ronin were king-making plays.
I actually tried to play games with those two guys to have my own experience, but I could only play with the lyashinosato ID.

Hope some members played with those two players share their experience, by analyzing the nice replay function!

Thanks!

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 01 July 2020, 20:06
by ZeroGravity0
To add just one more string,

(Please see the replays of those players before and after reading this thread)

This player almost always have some repetories: winning the war by engulfing two shields at 1st or 2nd cycle.

These almost always happen even when East_Ronin could build shields.

As I experienced, winning the wars at each round (especially at 2nd round) is decisive to winning. I think he knows well about the "winning logic," but has not been kept "fair."

Please help us keep this system fair!

Thanks.

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 02 July 2020, 16:48
by Tuomi
If you send the proofs (links to the games and description of the foul) to admins they can reset his/her level and ban the kingmaker. There where similar case in the earlier season where one used second account to get to the top.

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 03 July 2020, 04:10
by ZeroGravity0
Tuomi wrote: 02 July 2020, 16:48 If you send the proofs (links to the games and description of the foul) to admins they can reset his/her level and ban the kingmaker. There where similar case in the earlier season where one used second account to get to the top.
All right, I will tell admin. Thanks a lot!

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 03 July 2020, 04:21
by ZeroGravity0
Message just sent to Sourisdudesert! Hope it reaches to him and he helps us figure out if this was real... It took me about 2 hrs, and I was really upset when I witnessed ample evidences of team plays (I am much more convinced than before).

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 03 July 2020, 14:37
by augustjologs
As of 7/3/2020, looks like he has been stripped of his artificially boosted Elo. Though his game history still shows Elo 516, he no longer shows in top 10 or 20 and his profile page shows Elo 200.

If he believes he's not guilty, he'd probably continue playing. If he stops playing, then that would confirm the accusation.

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 03 July 2020, 15:50
by ZeroGravity0
augustjologs wrote: 03 July 2020, 14:37 As of 7/3/2020, looks like he has been stripped of his artificially boosted Elo. Though his game history still shows Elo 516, he no longer shows in top 10 or 20 and his profile page shows Elo 200.

If he believes he's not guilty, he'd probably continue playing. If he stops playing, then that would confirm the accusation.
Yes, I also see that he's Elo and arena ranking have been stripped. Yes, we will see if he comes back on his own plays.

Re: possible stealing (ver2?)

Posted: 04 July 2020, 15:27
by 6element
4780 arena points :)