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Too many trophies?

Posted: 21 July 2020, 13:00
by Boudinosore72
I find that the player profile is overloaded with trophies, which for the most part don't make sense. For example, a player who has the trophy of 100 wins (ditto for that of games played) necessarily has that of 50, 20, 10, ....
I think we should only keep the last one won.
It's the same for those in the leagues. In a few seasons, the profiles will only be filled with league trophies! :?
I think we should only keep the last leagues reached and put, for example, the history of this league reached in a tooltip.

In short, it would be wise to purify the trophies / leagues in order to have more readability on the profiles.
Those who want trophies, tournaments are there for that. ;)

Regarding the XP points, I do not understand why all the XP points of the TOP positions are added together ?! I find it very good that they are there because it is easier to play / replay while being less afraid of going down the rankings. However I find that it swells, see it explodes, the classification of XP. We should only mark the current TOP and keep the others in history but without scoring the points. This requires constantly updating the XP.

Finally, on the profiles it would be necessary to dissociate the current status and the history. (easy to say! :P ) Only the current status brings XP and the history aims to keep the TOP position, the trophies of the previous leagues, ... It would be necessary to group the identical trophies (only 1 visible) and avoid duplicates.

My post has the sole objective of raising the opinion of regular players like me and giving ideas! :D
I think it's not easy for the administrators to satisfy everyone and besides they do an incredible job on this site!

Re: Too many trophies?

Posted: 21 July 2020, 22:19
by Heraldson
+1

Re: Too many trophies?

Posted: 22 July 2020, 05:13
by sprockitz
I agree that we don't need to display all the trophies, it seems unnecessary..displaying only top achievements for each category in one place would be on the profile page would be nice, so that you can see trophies for arena, wins, games played, Elo rating etc instead of just, for example, 10 trophies for the different arena levels you've reached the past few seasons, and keeping the ability to open the XP page for details to get everything earned would be nice.

As for bloating the XP, based on the current XP payouts, the arena mode is far more at fault for XP bloating than anything else, the XP for top Elo has been decreased in all games, and drastically in the less popular ones. Payouts for a single season in arena are double that for all time payout based on Elo. Though more than anything for Elo based trophies they need to fix the bugs here...so many games change point values and once you earn a lower point value trophy you can't get the better trophy...1/3rd of the games I have Elo rating trophies in have switched points over the past two months which then result in being stuck with a worse point value because of exactly when I got the trophy.

Re: Too many trophies?

Posted: 22 July 2020, 14:28
by megamau
I keep seeing this same suggestion (remove redundant throphies) but no acknowledgment from admins.

Re: Too many trophies?

Posted: 22 July 2020, 22:03
by ringersoll
I just assume that the admins are doing other things that are more important than this. :)

Re: Too many trophies?

Posted: 23 July 2020, 03:46
by sprockitz
ringersoll wrote: 22 July 2020, 22:03 I just assume that the admins are doing other things that are more important than this. :)
Sure that's what I hope too. On the other hand when you launch something new like this in beta phase you should be planning to update things quickly...otherwise you should have waited until you had the time to launch the beta in the first place.

Re: Too many trophies?

Posted: 23 July 2020, 10:11
by RicardoRix
The admins will suggest this will go nowhere until it's voted up a suggestion in the bugs page,

These are my sentiments too, it's a half baked mess atm.
I agree that the icons are probably the worst part at taking up screen space and not really giving much information.

The admins may well have better things to do, but they also spent their time in these pages, so there is/was something in their minds at one point. I only assumed in was to go through some Arena seasons and then they would come back to it.

The overall leaderboards have been dumbed down and move to a small part of the front page, and when you click a score it takes you to 1 of 2 different pages (not consistent).

This page:
https://boardgamearena.com/achievements
Is just gumpf. That's the technical term for a mess. What is this trying to do? It is filled with over sized icons and little practical information.

This old page is much better:
https://boardgamearena.com/player?section=prestige
But still lacks a little bit of coherence sometimes. The idea of only showing the 'highest' elo / games played etc sounds like a very good start.

And where have the 'most played games' trophies vanished to? For some people it's not all about ELO and Arena.

With the amount of stuff going on I would love to see far more and more coherent leaderboards and profile pages. Who doesn't love numbers and order in the universe?

Re: Too many trophies?

Posted: 02 August 2020, 14:45
by megamau
I have raised it as a suggestion bug.

https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22037

Please upvote it.