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"skip turns" ->"get back in game"

Posted: 27 October 2020, 23:49
by MPH10
When your time goes below zero it is possible for someone else to kick you out of the game by clicking "skip turns".

Then you get this message:
"Your thinking time has expired and all your turns will be skipped."

Clicking...
->"Get back in the game"
"Are you sure? You will get back into the game, but you will keep the penalty you received for quitting this game. Continue?"
->"Confirm"

...you end up getting this message:
"You cannot get back into the game while your time to think is below 0."


If you can only ever get kicked out of a game for having below 0 thinking time, then it seems impossible to ever re-enter a game.

Can we please change this?

Also why do you recieve a -10 penalty when someone else kicks you out of a game for having below 0 thinking time?
That seems quite unfair.

I had someone kick me out of a game not realising what the "skip turns" button does. It really isn't obvious that this button is actually "replace this player with a bot".

Re: "skip turns" ->"get back in game"

Posted: 28 October 2020, 01:48
by Jest Phulin
MPH10 wrote: 27 October 2020, 23:49 Also why do you recieve a -10 penalty when someone else kicks you out of a game for having below 0 thinking time?
That seems quite unfair.
When someone sign up for a game, they are committing to play that game with another live person in a timely manner. Timely could be a few seconds, a minute, or even days, but there is a time limit that is clearly stated before the player signs up for the game.

Exceeding that time limit (going to zero time) is a statement from the player that "I care about my whims more than I care about the time of other players and the commitment I made to those players." This is not behavior that is wanted in the BGA community, and the way to discourage that behavior is with a karma penalty.

Re: "skip turns" ->"get back in game"

Posted: 28 October 2020, 12:25
by MPH10
Jest Phulin wrote: 28 October 2020, 01:48 Exceeding that time limit (going to zero time) is a statement from the player that "I care about my whims more than I care about the time of other players and the commitment I made to those players."
Running out of time is not usually malicious.

Especially in a game like hanabi (which I'm referring to) where you are working co-operatively, often one player is placed in a difficult position and has to think hard about how to help EVERYONE. In this situation it seems unfair that one player could be penalised as a result of random player position.

I would suggest:
-Seperate the penalty for having your turns skipped from the penalty for actively leaving a game
-Make it more clear that "skip turns" kicks someone from the game and that they cannot re-enter.
-Reduce penalties for having your turns skipped in co-operative games.

Re: "skip turns" ->"get back in game"

Posted: 29 October 2020, 20:44
by andwilk9176
I recently had an opponent skipped/kicked out of a game for going over time (turn based). The game will not progress past that player’s turn and has been sitting there for ~24 hours now. How can I force it to move to next player? When I try to press the “skip players out of time” button again it gives an error and tells me there is no one to skip.