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return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 06 December 2020, 06:53
by just_some_dude
"bullhead" is both nonsensical and gross, beefhead is funny and distinct. Please return the prior translation of "beefhead"! Thanks!
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 06 December 2020, 10:02
by DrKarotte
The English rulebook says "Bullhead". This does not mean that this must be the better word, but the devs and translators always try to follow the original wordings.
By the way: In the German original, the word is "Hornochse", which had to be translated as "Blockhead", if the true meaning should be transported.
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 06 December 2020, 11:05
by Meeplelowda
just_some_dude wrote: ↑06 December 2020, 06:53
"bullhead" is both
nonsensical and gross, beefhead is funny and distinct. Please return the prior translation of "beefhead"! Thanks!
What is nonsensical or gross?
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 06 December 2020, 11:54
by Giordano Bruno 1974
Beefhead is not a real word. It was a bad translation. We don't refer to male cattle as "beef". Beef is only the name of the meat.
I don't see how "bullhead" can be argue to be "nonsensical" or "gross".
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 07 December 2020, 05:59
by Meeplelowda
Giordano Bruno 1974 wrote: ↑06 December 2020, 11:54
Beefhead is not a real word. It was a bad translation. We don't refer to male cattle as "beef". Beef is only the name of the meat.
I don't see how "bullhead" can be argue to be "nonsensical" or "gross".
If anything, "beefhead" is nonsensical because "beef" doesn't have a head, but a bull does.
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 13 December 2020, 06:42
by just_some_dude
As a german speaker, I think translating Hornochse can be up for debate. However, as an english speaker, I have yet to hear of the term "bullhead" on its own -- bullheaded is a word, but that doesn't refer (as far as I know) the "head of a bull" but rather to someone having the characteristics of a bull. Translation is difficult and ambiguous -- the theme on the game is pretty thin so I'd argue for going with the endearing and charming "beefhead" over the equally incorrect but less interesting "bullhead". It gives the BGA version some distinctive flavor.
Regardless, I enjoyed the debate and am loving site.
Thanks!
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 13 December 2020, 12:29
by Giordano Bruno 1974
just_some_dude wrote: ↑13 December 2020, 06:42
As a german speaker, I think translating Hornochse can be up for debate. However, as an english speaker, I have yet to hear of the term "bullhead" on its own -- bullheaded is a word, but that doesn't refer (as far as I know) the "head of a bull" but rather to someone having the characteristics of a bull. Translation is difficult and ambiguous -- the theme on the game is pretty thin so I'd argue for going with the endearing and charming "beefhead" over the equally incorrect but less interesting "bullhead". It gives the BGA version some distinctive flavor.
Regardless, I enjoyed the debate and am loving site.
Thanks!
Bullhead is a word. It's a type of fish.
Obviously, you aren't going to find a definition that matches "head of a bull" but then animal parts are not generally listed in dictionaries. Cow's hoof isn't in either but cows have hooves and you can be fairly sure that the small number of people that need to talk about cows' hooves are able to do so in English.
But beefhead is just totally wrong. No native speaker would call it that.
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 14 December 2020, 03:12
by just_some_dude
Right! The theme is light and no native speaker would say either, so I break in the direction of goofy and distinctive to bga. It’s all taste, of course!
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 14 December 2020, 11:34
by Giordano Bruno 1974
just_some_dude wrote: ↑14 December 2020, 03:12
Right! The theme is light and no native speaker would say either, so I break in the direction of goofy and distinctive to bga. It’s all taste, of course!
A native speaker would say either bullhead or bull's head. Most likely the latter. But never beefhead.
Re: return bullhead to beefhead pls?
Posted: 20 December 2020, 05:56
by just_some_dude
I am a native speaker, I play with native speakers, and the oddness of it makes it funny and charming.