turn order and first player advantage

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ricksilver
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turn order and first player advantage

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EDIT: Never mind. I'm creating tables now and still going first. It would seem I just always go first? (does it have to do with my ELO being low or something?)


So, it seems like whenever I join a connect 4 table that someone else created I get to move first.
But going first is a huge advantage in this game.
Should there perhaps be a table configuration option to randomize the turn order? (or at least something like the tournament mode in Lucky Numbers?)

Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here -- I'm a bit of a BGA newb.
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Re: turn order and first player advantage

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There is a bug since the beginning that never was touched. The alternating starting order isnt implemented (properly), which is pretty bad given that starting means auto-win.

But that doesnt really answer your questions. There I‘d just assume it‘s randomness, and probably not as extreme that you start 100% over huge amounts of games.
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Re: turn order and first player advantage

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Looking back at my games history, I think I've gone first 11 times in a row now.
The chances of that (as you likely know) are 1 in 2048.
So it's possible that it's random but rather unlikely.

I wonder if it has to do with player preference on color? (I think my top choice is blue, and I'm premium)
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There were 1.2 million C4 games played since it was released, that gives a lot of room for "unlikely occurances".
And in your games before these 11 it was pretty equal, with you starting less than half
*shrug*
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Re: turn order and first player advantage

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Well, the streak was broken with the 12th game.
So, either you were right and it is random. Or the conspirators saw my forum post and found out I was on to them (j/k).
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I think in games, played just for fun, its okay you always start the game but in important tournament like this one https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=77932 :lol: its a little bit irritating :roll: but we discuss another board size to solve this problem: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 46&t=19107
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