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Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 14 April 2021, 19:42
by Dave Tompkins
So it took me 3 games to beat the game on EASY mode -- I know I will get better, but it was quite disappointing to only get +1 ELO on the game.

Other coop games have done this +1 ELO for victory (Bandito is the prime example) but that is a much simpler and faster game and much easier to get people to play with you.

It's possible there's more ELO for harder settings (like Tranquility) but regardless -- To think that you need 100 victories on easy to just become a "regular player" is a bit absurd. It would take a ridiculous amount of time just to reach 100 ELO on this game, and as someone who tries to get 100 ELO on every game, I fear this game will crush me.

I'm not sure what a good alternative would be, but I think +10 ELO for a victory (i.e., 10 victories to become regular player) might be much more reasonable.

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 14 April 2021, 20:20
by ufm
Well, The Crew gives out only 1 regardless of progress, so what are the chances?
At least it's better than Forbidden Islands ratings.

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 14 April 2021, 20:49
by Romain672
Adding a restriction on number of games played would resolve that problem.
But that's one more restriction, so not great for new players :(

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 15 April 2021, 03:16
by Dave Tompkins
ufm wrote: 14 April 2021, 20:20 Well, The Crew gives out only 1 regardless of progress, so what are the chances?
At least it's better than Forbidden Islands ratings.
That was also a very quick and easy game to get started, and +1 ELO even for fails I think ?!?

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 15 April 2021, 03:18
by Dave Tompkins
Romain672 wrote: 14 April 2021, 20:49 Adding a restriction on number of games played would resolve that problem.
But that's one more restriction, so not great for new players :(
I'm not sure I follow, but I don't think that will solve any of my concerns.

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 15 April 2021, 04:08
by Dave Tompkins
I just won on "Normal" mode instead of "Easy" mode and it was also only +1 ELO -sigh-

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 15 April 2021, 05:26
by Romain672
Dave Tompkins wrote: 15 April 2021, 03:18I'm not sure I follow, but I don't think that will solve any of my concerns.
The main thing the level of players does is to restrict table to experienced player or not. Second is some xp. Not sure there is any other utility...

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 18 April 2021, 03:20
by ufm
Dave Tompkins wrote: 15 April 2021, 03:16
ufm wrote: 14 April 2021, 20:20 Well, The Crew gives out only 1 regardless of progress, so what are the chances?
At least it's better than Forbidden Islands ratings.
That was also a very quick and easy game to get started, and +1 ELO even for fails I think ?!?
Somehow it is changed and now it feels much better.
Perhaps I was too frustrated because coop game ELO systems had never been changed before... Sorry for being cranky.

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 18 April 2021, 06:30
by Dave Tompkins
To whomever changed this, if you're reading this thread, thank you very much! Very much appreciated.

I got my 100 ELO and am very happy

Re: Please change the ELO ASAP - before too many games are played...

Posted: 18 April 2021, 09:46
by Een
Thanks for your feedback, this had been forgotten.
ufm wrote: 18 April 2021, 03:20 Perhaps I was too frustrated because coop game ELO systems had never been changed before... Sorry for being cranky.
Not sure what you are referring to. In general "changing the ELO system" is pretty hard if you really mean changing how the system works.

On the other hand, configuring a coop game with multiple difficulty settings to have an Elo scale instead of the default 1 point per victory for games without difficulty setting, if not done, is most likely something that has been forgotten and needs to be fixed by the developer while the game is in beta.

And please remember than in beta, a game is still... beta :D