Tichu players who cheat by privately communicating during play

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Kissmy4ce
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Re: Tichu players who cheat by privately communicating during play

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And i dont know the "french cheating community".
But
when i read you , i understand you are just jealous and haters.
everything you say shows they are good players, nothing else.

when you have 2 bombs, either you got a lucky game or you were good at pass or both. And since you're only relying on pass here ...
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your arguments are not valid
2 or 3 lucky moves (if you think it may not be the experience or the game sense) over hundreds of games and thousands of moves do not constitute cheating evidence.
you forget it's a card game and it happens.
if you only knew how many times i have seen improbable things happen in this game IRL ...
imagine for a second that they succeeded these moves without cheating ... what would you say?
What a wonderful compliment you give them by accusing them of cheating if it's wrong.
And if its true , ok maybe they tried that one time , but it doesn't mean they cheat every game they play together. And you ? How many accounts ? How many times ?
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in my opinion they are just stronger than you and you don't accept it.
if you think that they are able to see their partner's play, it is because they are indeed very strong.
The goal of this game is to manage to read the play of the partner and the opponents according to his own play, the announcements and the evolution of the score...
You are really beginners.
of course, it's easier to accuse of cheating than to recognize the superiority of opponents.
You are pathetics , i pity you.
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*Moderation Edit: please do not use the Forums to call players out by name, this is what the Moderation Reports are for. The Forums should remain a general discussion.
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Kissmy4ce wrote: 13 January 2022, 10:10 like it or not , i completed a streak of 20 wins whithout help
no help, just you and you .... or you vs you - just whatever it takes tairo ;)
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How do you make your graphics?
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nice4444 9 wrote: 14 January 2022, 07:15 How do you make your graphics?
All games played are can be replayed (watched) by any user from any player's perspective, as detailed here. From there: screenshots, Excel for initial calculations and visualizations, InDesign for final layout and viz.
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Modus operandi in cheating, collusion and secretly communicating in Tichu cardgame involves:

a) 2 persons - the most common one, usually they sits together in table 1/2 vs 3/4, and instead of same nationality, they are using difference nationality. Amateur approach will be of same nationality. 2 "The Duet" vs "The Marks"(another 2 players).

b) 3 persons "Trio of deception". Lurking in random table.

c) 4 persons or more - a ring. Training mode table? Internal cheatings among this small group of players.

d) One person? One person using multiple accounts??, This person has to be highly IT skill proficiency, (please read topic "The Rise and Fall..."). A is B and A is also C. ABC vs D.

3 persons or "Trio of deception" involves ABC versus D ("The Mark").

A is the mastermind, his minions B and C are working to boost his rating. B will partner D, B will pass 2/3 constantly to A and C or dog to C, so if C wins lead, C will pass lead to A.

Instead of passing to make a quad or flush bomb frequently(amateur approach), they go for long straights or 1010JJ, a much more quieter combination than the usual bomb "kaboom" noise that arouses suspicion from "The Mark". Lesser singles to throw out from team AC, increases their chance of 1-2, thus winning the game.
In the future, there will be "Trio of deception", and it will be 3 players from 3 different nationalities. :roll:
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Moina2020 wrote: 04 February 2022, 10:54 Is there something fishy going between these two players: decson/ Taiwan and Gyudi/ South Korea?

decson & Gyudi

Please look at my Tichu log#239038280

#239038280

Half game, random table, a total of 8 rounds:

Round 2: decscon gives 10 from 678891010 to Gyudi to make 10JJ, Gyudi gives J from JJJ to make 678910J.

(??Round 5??) A blunder from Gyudi? He gives J from JJ, suppose to give 8 out to opponents instead of 7, decson gives him 10 supposedly to make it 78910J in Gyudi's hand :roll:

Round 6: descon gives 6 from JQK to make a bomb of 6s in Gyudi's hand. :roll:

Round 7: Kind of suspicion exchange of 8 to desccon and Q to Gyudi. :roll: Getting desperate?
I'm not seeing enough here to conclude collusion. First, there's no play history between your opponents apart from this game. Rather, one of your opponents is apparently friends with your partner and the passing doesn't suggest your partner was sabotaging you to benefit the friend's side.

In general, a card passed to partner will result in a combo better than what was already in hand 49-50% of the time, so you'll see two consecutive pairs or even bombs produced unwittingly, particularly when high cards are exchanged.

Second, they missed three opportunities to make bombs (move #9 quads, #243 flush, and #458 quads). in round 6, move #380, decson passes lowest singles 456, likely inadvertently giving partner quad 6s. The plan was clearly to call Tichu given the player had D33899JQKA left. Final hand #539, they swap Dragon and Ace for no benefit.
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