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Solved: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 26 August 2021, 11:00
by Ze Monstah
Good day.

Why do I have the Commander-in-Chief Achievement Trophy? (10,000 BGA victories), considering that on my profile it says I have 8,800 something victories, so below 10,000?

I remember that the last "X BGA victories" trophy was around a month ago (49 days), and it was "6,000 victories" one (i forgot the name the trophy had then, it could have been also called Commader-in-Chief), but now i see I have no such trophy (of 6,000 victories), but i have this one of 10,000 victories and 6,000 XP points, instead, in its place.

I specifically remember that that achievement was for 6,000 wins, or anyway, lower than 10,000.

And from what I remember seeing on other people's profiles, the 10,000 BGA victories trophy used to be worth around 10,000 XP points, or something. So above 6,000 XP.
Now, after re-visiting some of these people, their 10,000 BGA victories trophies are worth 6,000 XP, as well... :s

Does anyone know what is going on? Thanks in advance.

Re: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 26 August 2021, 11:41
by aesche
Looks like the victories count in your games history doesnt count everything (such as training games, I suppose) or is bugged, but if you add up the victories you see on your main profile page, it should be 10k.

Re: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 26 August 2021, 11:52
by Ze Monstah
aesche wrote: 26 August 2021, 11:41 Looks like the victories count in your games history doesnt count everything (such as training games, I suppose) or is bugged, but if you add up the victories you see on your main profile page, it should be 10k.
Sorry, add what?

Add what to what?

This is the link with all the games, and the 8,800 thing: https://boardgamearena.com/gamestats?player=85259559

It seems rather hard to believe that i won 1,200 training mode games, which were not included in the 8,800, but were included in the trophy 10,000 victories count.

Sorry if i misunderstood you.

I think it is a bug, to be fair, or some change the site did on the trophies, again. This would explain why the 10,000 trophies i saw on other people's profiles, were then worth more than 6,000 XP, and now they appear to be worth 6,000 XP>

Re: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 26 August 2021, 11:57
by Ze Monstah
aesche wrote: 26 August 2021, 11:41 Looks like the victories count in your games history doesnt count everything (such as training games, I suppose) or is bugged, but if you add up the victories you see on your main profile page, it should be 10k.
Oh yeah, I got what you meant. To add all the victories shown on the games on my account page, 1 by 1.

Yes, it would be over 10,000,which is weird :)))

I wonder if that change when the training mode victories stopped to be counted as victories, has anything to do with that; i mean if the training victories registered until then continued to stay registered as wins, or if they were erased from the victories count, as well.

Anyway, it is still fishy...

Re: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 26 August 2021, 14:10
by sprockitz
The 10,000 victories has been worth 6000 xp for at least the past 6 months, so I don't think the value has changed.

If you add up all your games won on your profile page, you are well over 10,000 (you have about 10,400). So the actual count seems to be somewhere in between what shows up on the two different pages. One theory could be the hanabi and thermopyles games don't count toward the win total, or that they didn't used to count before the recent change...that gave people gift points for first win at hanabi and other co-op games.

Re: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 26 August 2021, 14:15
by Ze Monstah
sprockitz wrote: 26 August 2021, 14:10 The 10,000 victories has been worth 6000 xp for at least the past 6 months, so I don't think the value has changed.

If you add up all your games won on your profile page, you are well over 10,000 (you have about 10,400). So the actual count seems to be somewhere in between what shows up on the two different pages. One theory could be the hanabi and thermopyles games don't count toward the win total, or that they didn't used to count before the recent change...that gave people gift points for first win at hanabi and other co-op games.
I understood, thank you.
I could swear i saw a bigger value than 6,000... Perhaps my memory tricks me.

Do you have an idea if there are more trophies after 10,000 wins?

For instance, BGA 20,000 wins, or something?
I am not sure if the answer to this q. can be found in the "new achievements and XP" post.

Re: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 26 August 2021, 14:19
by sprockitz
Ze Monstah wrote: 26 August 2021, 14:15
sprockitz wrote: 26 August 2021, 14:10 The 10,000 victories has been worth 6000 xp for at least the past 6 months, so I don't think the value has changed.

If you add up all your games won on your profile page, you are well over 10,000 (you have about 10,400). So the actual count seems to be somewhere in between what shows up on the two different pages. One theory could be the hanabi and thermopyles games don't count toward the win total, or that they didn't used to count before the recent change...that gave people gift points for first win at hanabi and other co-op games.
I understood, thank you.
I could swear i saw a bigger value than 6,000... Perhaps my memory tricks me.

Do you have an idea if there are more trophies after 10,000 wins?

For instance, BGA 20,000 wins, or something?
I believe there is one at 40,000 victories and this is the last one.

Re: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 26 August 2021, 14:21
by Ze Monstah
sprockitz wrote: 26 August 2021, 14:19
Ze Monstah wrote: 26 August 2021, 14:15
sprockitz wrote: 26 August 2021, 14:10 The 10,000 victories has been worth 6000 xp for at least the past 6 months, so I don't think the value has changed.

If you add up all your games won on your profile page, you are well over 10,000 (you have about 10,400). So the actual count seems to be somewhere in between what shows up on the two different pages. One theory could be the hanabi and thermopyles games don't count toward the win total, or that they didn't used to count before the recent change...that gave people gift points for first win at hanabi and other co-op games.
I understood, thank you.
I could swear i saw a bigger value than 6,000... Perhaps my memory tricks me.

Do you have an idea if there are more trophies after 10,000 wins?

For instance, BGA 20,000 wins, or something?
I believe there is one at 40,000 victories and this is the last one.
Oooh so from 10,000 to 40,000... :s

OK, thank you.

Re: Solved: Funny Trophy ("10,000 victories", with 8,800 victories ?)

Posted: 29 August 2021, 16:14
by SardaukarWI
I believe all those games where someone quit or was booted and everyone else gets a victory counts towards the trophy but doesn't show on your profile in games won.