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I was hoping to try to make a very basic tutorial for Tumbleweed, which has just entered beta.

After struggling with the tutorial system, which is very unintuitive and poorly explained**, and having to try to make a tutorial in one game only to abandon it so that I could instead make one where the player who sets up the board is the player taking the tutorial (ie me in the game), I now no longer can view replays since I've hit some arbitrary replay limit.

I read in an old thread from 2017 that this is supposed to be quite high, except I've only viewed two or three distinct replays max (one was the first tutorial I tried to make, viewing the replays from both players perspectives, which makes no difference in tumbleweed, and one from the new tutorial I wanted to make where I was the first player).

Now all that effort is completely wasted... If you refresh the page, does this count as viewing a "new" replay? If so, that should really be fixed, especially if you want people to struggle through the already poor replay and tutorial creation system in place.

** For example, I can't create a tutorial from my opponents perspective, it has to be from a game I played from my own POV; half of the time the comment box covers the buttons to highlight grids, cover the pointers to point to a specific position; sometimes I need to refresh to even get comments to show up; there has to be a follow up comment to test if the previous comment requiring a click even works... The list goes on

Apologies if the tone is a bit terse, but this is quite a frustrating user experience.

This wont be the big game changer that you are looking for (which probably has no high hopes anyway, but the devs are responding here every now and then), but the last time someone complained about the replay limit (feels like yesterday) it was said that it‘s a daily limit, so should be open tomorrow again for you.

I appreciate the response, and I did see that previous post, but in that case the user in question may have viewed 80 replays, or whichever the limit happens to be. I on the other have viewed 2 distinct games (possibly three if you count trying to view from the other players perspective), so if that somehow hits an 80 "game" limit, I feel like that's a bit silly.

I can understand though if it's something like an 80 request limit, but then something is going wrong somewhere. Either refreshing the page, or jumping to a specific move must be counting toward this limit.

Since I was trying to add comments and test if they were working as expected, I was jumping back and forward moves in the same replay. Maybe that is reloading the game as if it's viewing a new replay? That's a bit problematic though.

It'll take many days to make a single tutorial with a few comments soon it at that rate.

Yes, this all counts as individual replays… - the replay feature is… not so awesome…, because it can‘t access whatever move directly, but only can build it up move by move - every time you reload, or go backwards.

aesche wrote: ↑22 November 2021, 21:32 Yes, this all counts as individual replays… - the replay feature is… not so awesome…, because it can‘t access whatever move directly, but only can build it up move by move - every time you reload, or go backwards.

That is unfortunate alright.

I am slightly happier the ability to look at replays has come back for me at the moment. That is it wasn't 24 hours like I was expecting, maybe it's just the next day?

In any case I managed to get the tutorial made so all good. Whether it's useful or acceptable or accepted, remains to be seen, but I tried my best!

Still a lot of ways the replay could be improved, in particular for adding comments. For example quite a lot of the time the comment covers the board when you want to add a marking to it for Tumbleweed. Then you have to drag it somewhere, and it glitches about a bit, then place the marker and then try to find wherever the comment box ended up hidden out of the way