I'm wondering if moderators / administrators might chime in on an issue that is causing some conflict in our games of Hand and Foot.
There are some players who view it as cheating to ask their partner if they may go out before doing so -- and have warned that it is an offense for which someone could be moderated if it is reported.
Others, including me, see the "May I go out?" question as part of the game play/strategy specified in the rules -- and thus not cheating.
The rules to which the BGA Hand and Foot Page links say the following:
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The play ends when someone gets rid of all the cards in their "hand" and "foot", by melding or discarding them; this is known as "going out". In order to be allowed to go out, you must satisfy all of the following conditions:
1. your partnership must have completed at least two dirty piles, two clean piles and one wild pile (exactly seven cards in each);
2. your partner must have picked up their "foot" and played at least part of one turn from it;
3. you must ask partner's permission to go out. If partner agrees you must meld all of your remaining cards, or meld all but one of your remaining cards and discard your last card. If partner says no, you are not allowed to go out on that turn.
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I can see it going either way since our games are not set up to prohibit going out when partner is still in their hand (#2 on the list).
It would would help the community if we can get clarification on whether this rule about asking partner's permission to go out applies to the games we play in arena or whether asking that question is a violation of fair play.
Thanks!
There are some players who view it as cheating to ask their partner if they may go out before doing so -- and have warned that it is an offense for which someone could be moderated if it is reported.
Others, including me, see the "May I go out?" question as part of the game play/strategy specified in the rules -- and thus not cheating.
The rules to which the BGA Hand and Foot Page links say the following:
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The play ends when someone gets rid of all the cards in their "hand" and "foot", by melding or discarding them; this is known as "going out". In order to be allowed to go out, you must satisfy all of the following conditions:
1. your partnership must have completed at least two dirty piles, two clean piles and one wild pile (exactly seven cards in each);
2. your partner must have picked up their "foot" and played at least part of one turn from it;
3. you must ask partner's permission to go out. If partner agrees you must meld all of your remaining cards, or meld all but one of your remaining cards and discard your last card. If partner says no, you are not allowed to go out on that turn.
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I can see it going either way since our games are not set up to prohibit going out when partner is still in their hand (#2 on the list).
It would would help the community if we can get clarification on whether this rule about asking partner's permission to go out applies to the games we play in arena or whether asking that question is a violation of fair play.
Thanks!