susieadders wrote: ↑16 May 2022, 15:42
Hi, I just want to open a discussion about whether the Indians card should be removed from the game. Increasingly over the years we are realizing the extent of the shocking genocide and abuse that indigenous people in North America have faced at the hands of the European settlers. This occurred in early American history but also in our lifetimes and is ongoing in the form of stereotyping and unconscious bias in society. The whole ‘cowboy and Indian’ dialogue is part of the stereotyping that fuels poor treatment of indigenous people in modern society. As the world moves towards correcting our wrongs, including the Indian card in this game is increasingly disrespectful to a persecuted population.
We can do our part by removing it from the game.
Look, I just want to point out that there are some clips on yt with a guy who dresses up in traditional Mexican, Chinese, etc costumes and asks...Americans what they think of him. The answer is always: "You shouldn't do that because it's offensive!"
While in the countries where those costumes are part of their culture they say: "I like it, and I am not offended. Everyone should ware it."
The game is like in the movies...
When I was a kid I liked the Indians so much for their mysticism, connection with nature, bow and arrow skill and hunting. I liked the cowboy heroes as much for many reasons but very different reasons and never felt like Indians were the bad evil batch, even when they tried to portray them like that.
In the game when you play the "Indians" card it's like if you have the means to fight them then you live, if not, they prevail. How do the cowboys win? if they have bangs because "if no guns then no get off my property", isn't this America still today?
I think Indians are very cool and are part of the 'western" culture...for what it's worth.
I feel like we are cancelling so much * based on "trying to correct" what previous generations screwed up that we end up teaching our kids that those things never happened and because they never happened we shouldn't call people this and that and we should have that kind of people here and there even if they don't fit, just because we need to force this appearance of social justice and culture fairness...all this while China gov is committing genocide and all sorts of dirty deeds, North Korea chiefs do only God knows, Russia is playing the good old "we own what we say we own" and playing the nuclear threat every * day..., Iran, Afghanistan...then we have the democratic school shootings, mall shootings, and so much * in this world like food waste and water pollution of which the entire civilised population is guilty of.
And this cancelling...I don't understand it. I just don't. Western movies should be cancelled then, right? What's up with that movie Revenant? That should also be deleted or changed.
If an American is playing an Asian character it's whitewashing. If a black person is playing a white character it's correctitude.
Someone said: "Also not everyone knows (especially kids) that Bang! is based on some fictional spaghetti westerns that does not reflect the reality."
Yeah, because so many people are raising their kids with their backs at them, leaving them be on tiktok it's no wonder that not everyone knows what a fictional spaghetti western is.
We need to censor contextual stuff so that our kids won't need to look into a subject or our assistance.
Sorry for the rant...I just don't buy this.
*moderator edit: please use family-friendly language