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Hello,
We are 3 players equal 12 wins in 14 matches in 7 wonders dual. How is determined who is 1,2 and 3rd?
I’m third and I have more Elo points than the first and I won against number 2.

Thanks

19max91 wrote: ↑24 May 2022, 15:49We are 3 players equal 12 wins in 14 matches in 7 wonders dual. How is determined who is 1,2 and 3rd?
I’m third and I have more Elo points than the first and I won against number 2.

Normally, the ranking of participants in a tournament should only depend on the events of that tournament.
If this is not the case, the rules of the tournament should clearly announce it. So, for me, ELO points, which are supposed to be acquired mainly outside the tournament, are not taken into account.

The victory points are ignored at 7 Wonders Dual in case of military or scientific victory, so it seems difficult to establish an overall score of victory points for the tournament.
A classic way to break the tie is to consider the rankings of the opponents encountered. Then, the player who has met the top ranked opponents in the tournament will precede another who has met less well ranked opponents.

diamant wrote: ↑24 May 2022, 18:33 A classic way to break the tie is to consider the rankings of the opponents encountered. Then, the player who has met the top ranked opponents in the tournament will precede another who has met less well ranked opponents.

This is the traditional method of handling this for a Swiss tournament and IMO the best one. Tie breakers suck and often feel bad, but they're a necessary evil. Average strength of opponents faced seems like the most fair option and that should be evaluated within the context of that tournament, not from an outside score like ELO.

thanks for both answers. There is no rules mentionning it in the tounrament and we were in the same pool with the 14 same players.
that was why why i asked the question.

#1 player 1
#2 player 2
#3 me

we all have 12 wins.
#1 won #3 and lost #2
#2 won and lost #3
#3 won #2 and lost #1

is it possible that if i lost to a weker openentthe other lost i finished last ?

19max91 wrote: ↑24 May 2022, 15:49We are 3 players equal 12 wins in 14 matches

19max91 wrote: ↑24 May 2022, 19:43we were in the same pool with the 14 same players.

19max91 wrote: ↑24 May 2022, 19:43#1 won #3 and lost #2
#2 won and lost #3
#3 won #2 and lost #1

14 matches is quite long for a 14-player Swiss tournament. ​ With that length, it surprises me that each of the top 3 players
would've played each other of those top 3 exactly once. ​ Are you sure this was Swiss system rather than round robin?

ohh yeah my bad, thats a round robin.

Still don'T know how they separate us with top 3

Do you have a link to that tournament? ​ I looked in your profile, and the only tournament I see there
from the last 3 weeks in which you placed in the top 3 was a Single Elimination tournament.

The most common way to break ties in Round Robin is the average score of defeated opponents (Go players called it SODOS, Chess players have probably some German sounding name for this )