Not in my games. I’ve red thumbed a lot of players who do this, at least the ones who are obnoxious about it, and the rest I just deny the request to abandon.xuorel wrote: ↑17 July 2022, 18:39 you make me say what I did not say.
I didn't say that's what I do. But you who are a regular Hanabi player, you can't deny that it happens very often.Travis Hall wrote: ↑17 July 2022, 01:18Why? You’ve mentioned the (or a) goal of the site, but what is your goal that drives you to do this?
When I play with players with more than 600 ELO, more than one time out of two if we know that we are not going to finish someone proposes the abandonment .... do you find that normal? It means that there is a problem in the system...
I still wind up with some abandonments in my history, and always will. There are legitimate reasons to abandon - things come up, and a player can’t continue, and I’d rather accept a communal abandon than force a quit, just to encourage people to be up-front about the problem, as long as the kindness doesn’t seem to get abused. Sometimes it’s me who needs the courtesy. Even more rarely I run short on time and can’t deny an abandon request. I’ve still been known to accept an abandonment if the chat becomes too toxic (generally toward others - I just ignore insults towards me these days) but that will be followed by red thumbs and reporting, and that’s very rare for me these days too.
And if you go way back in my history, I’ve got a couple of hundred abandoned games. That was before I realised why people were requesting abandons. I figured it was because I was screwing up games and didn’t know what I was doing (which is true) and I was annoyed even then because I was learning from the mistakes and what followed on from there. There’s more to learn from a mistake than a perfect play. But the thing about ELO systems, fortunately, is that the further back in history you go, the less impact on current score there is, so after 2000 more games, those early abandons are insignificant now.
So if you don’t abandon, there isn’t a problem, is there?