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Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 21 July 2022, 16:05
by BillTundle
I am currently in a game where a player has played a priest against me (see my card) and is then saying in chat what they saw.
I don't think its mentioned in the rules but surely this is wrong as it makes the game pretty boring.
Any thoughts?
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 21 July 2022, 17:37
by Jellby
Any reason why the other players should believe anything this player says?
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 21 July 2022, 17:52
by voriki
(Personal opinion)
Saying it in chat is a big No No.
The game works with hidden and public information, and you have to know the difference.
What could one say? You could alert someone that a player is getting dangerously close to winning the game, and you need to crank up the heat on that person. Since if the one player wins, obviously you never could. So a temporary(!) alliance could be allowed. But overal it's also still a game and needs to be enjoyable for everyone involved, including the person on top.
But revealing hidden information is a huge downer killing the spirit of the game.
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 21 July 2022, 22:44
by twenty9oh7
The "official" AEG (2012) rules linked state: "When you discard the Priest, you can look at one other player's hand. Do not reveal the hand to all players."
The Premium AEG edition (2016) rules linked state: "When you discard the Priest, you can look at another player’s hand. Do not reveal the hand to any other players."
The Z-man edition (2019) rules state: "Choose another player and secretly look at their hand (without revealing it to anyone else)."
The definition of "reveal" per Cambridge Dictionary: "to make known or show something that is surprising or that was previously secret"
I'd say it is not supposed to be allowed and wouldn't play with that person again.
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 03 August 2022, 13:51
by CB Droege
In the spirit of the rules of this game: You may not actually show the card to other players, but you can say whatever you want. Other players have to decide if they can trust you. Table talk is part of the game.
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 06 August 2022, 00:30
by fiscused
No, table talk is not allowed in this game. That would make a totally different game. There would be no reason for a player to lie in the case given above, because it would always benefit him.
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 20 December 2023, 21:05
by GeorgeBull
Totally agree with You. Table talks are a great part of board-games. But You have to double check what You write, because it can ruin the game if You give a hint about any card in the hand.
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 19 January 2024, 22:12
by Earthboundia
BillTundle wrote: ↑21 July 2022, 16:05
I am currently in a game where a player has played a priest against me (see my card) and is then saying in chat what they saw.
I don't think its mentioned in the rules but surely this is wrong as it makes the game pretty boring.
Any thoughts?
It's blatant cheating, the rules specifically state that you can't publicly give information about another players hand. You can make banter saying that someone has the princess but if you look at someone's hand and say what they have then that's a no.
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 30 April 2026, 22:51
by Hankathan
Can someone give a substantial reason that table talk should not be allowed in Love Letter? The rules state that you cannot literally "reveal the hand", but why can you not tell other players what you see? If one player is ahead, it seems natural that the other players would all want to knock them out of the round; why should we prevent this? I've seen a few discussions of this in the forum, but no real definitive answer.
Re: Collaboration allowed?
Posted: 07 May 2026, 16:14
by BartholomewBart
Hankathan wrote: ↑30 April 2026, 22:51
The rules state that you cannot literally "reveal the hand", but why can you not tell other players what you see?
You just answered your own question. The rules say so. If you tell them what's in the hand, the hand is revealed.