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Quitting Onitama and BGA because of Sussuarana and lack of moderation

Posted: 11 August 2022, 10:49
by FHenker
## user insulted moderation, moderators and BGA admins => banned from BGA ##

Re: Quitting Onitama and BGA because of Sussuarana and lack of moderation

Posted: 11 August 2022, 13:37
by Malicious Genius
#### insults against mods => user banned ####

Re: Quitting Onitama and BGA because of Sussuarana and lack of moderation

Posted: 11 August 2022, 14:50
by mousefish
sad news.. first ranked respected onitama player leaves the platform instead of cheater banned.. ridiculous situation.
moderators, understand your reaction on kind of insulting from fhenker, but u have to know and understand clearly - it's not his personal problem with other user like u said him.. it's a community's problem - one of it is a toxic person, who was cheating and being disrespectful to others in past, and continues to do this now..
anyway time will stand everything on their places.. whatever

Re: Quitting Onitama and BGA because of Sussuarana and lack of moderation

Posted: 11 August 2022, 15:54
by Onitama_Oni
It is indeed a shame to see FHenker go, he fought very hard for justice and fairness in our community. I have seen many of the examples he exposed and it is impossible to dispute that he was 100% correct.

This is a big loss for our community, we lost our number 1 and a player who has always been fair and kind and respectful to me and, as far as I know, to everyone else.

Enjoy your break FHenker, I look forward to facing you soon!

Re: Quitting Onitama and BGA because of Sussuarana and lack of moderation

Posted: 12 August 2022, 14:20
by malfranco
It is easy to see that FHenker was right. He took his time to accumulate a lot evidence and BGA did absolutely nothing. What we can do is stop playing with Sussuarana. That's it.

Re: Quitting Onitama and BGA because of Sussuarana and lack of moderation

Posted: 13 August 2022, 11:06
by sourisdudesert
Lets make things simple and clear:

How to do the right thing with a BGA cheater:
- find a good and obvious evidence of the cheat
- write a report to the moderator with the evidence. No need to be lengthy, no need to detail all the occurences, only some are needed.
- moderators are checking the report, using some non public infos (like private discussions or IP addresses), and moderate the cheater.

How to do the wrong things with a BGA cheater:
- write a 50 pages long reports detailling everything, making it very difficult to process for moderators.
- complaining that moderators close the report after they check the 2/3 first assertions in the reports that prove to be wrong.
- writing more reports and more direct (long) emails to the moderators, which are obviously less enclined to analyse it given the fact the author made wrong assertions previously.
- after receiving the -expected- answer from the mods, insult them by email
- making the whole thing public on the forum, insulting BGA admins again.

To conclude:
1- do the right things, we do our job on our side.
2- we never said that the accused player was not a cheater, we just concluded that the evidences was not good. This player will be moderated if good evidences are given.
3- we made very clear by the past that forum is not appropriate for moderations and we explained why. This is why this post is now locked.