Making objectives more fair

[Tibojk]

At the beginning of the game when 3 objectives are shown to the player, it seems very unfair that sometimes you have 2 "high point" objectives, and sometimes you're stuck with 3 low point objectives. Plus, usually the low point objectives encourage you to take smaller routes and lower your points in the end.

I believe in the board game, everyone is offered one large objective at least, and 1 small (and not sure about the third). It looks like on BGA it's completely randomized, making it more luck-prone and less fair.

Is it on purpose or not ? If not, I think it would make sense to give that option.

[SwHawk]

What you're referring to are rules for the Europe version (and also Asia, Germany/Märklin at least IIRC). But for the original TTR game, all destination tickets are mixed together, there is no distinction between long and short routes...

So the BGA implementation follows those rules, and yes, you can find yourself looking at such situations as you described even around a real table.

[fruktansvärt]

it's a pity we don't have the 1910 expansion implemented here, it's basically the original NA map but with better (more balanced) routes.

[euklid314]

Please note, Tibojk, that one can also win with 2 very short tickets. One obvious way is to collect lots of cards (draw face-down from the deck to optimize your chance for locos!) and then try to build your 45 trains in only 9 or 10 moves - ideally in a single line to get the 10point-bonus for longest route. If you fulfill your tickets or not is not really important. If one of your opponent is very obviously going for a long route you might block him/her, but rather look to finish the game very fast. If you only build 6 or 5 routes (and very few 4 routes) you will get a lot of points. Chances are high that the players that have the longer routes have not finished them when you end the game.

In a 2-player game blocking gets more important when you have bad tickets. But even then, try to end the game as fast as possible.

[Photios]

As euklid explained, if you don't block and try to avoid it, this game depends a lot on initial hand, thus luck, as Tibojk stated correctly. Otherwise it's 90% skill.

[cassa30]

maybe it is by purpose.
Premium members have so long and good routs and finishing


I see that Premium members are prefered
- starting at first or second place
- longest route is calculated different
- how they get so fast same colors

and if you look at the ranking, 29 of 30 players are Premium members

[james1974]

maybe it is by purpose.
Premium members have so long and good routs and finishing


I see that Premium members are prefered
- starting at first or second place
- longest route is calculated different
- how they get so fast same colors

and if you look at the ranking, 29 of 30 players are Premium members

what? there is a correlation between players who play a lot and players who are premium members?

shocked pikachu face.

[james1974]

not only can a player get multiple long routes, but they can draw new york to seattle in conjuction with montreal to toronto. which is almost like a free win, lots of 6 point links, and 20+ point routes with a high degree of overlap.

[Mathew5000]

they can draw new york to seattle in conjuction with montreal to toronto. which is almost like a free win, lots of 6 point links, and 20+ point routes with a high degree of overlap.

I think you mean Montreal to Vancouver (not Toronto).

[james1974]

they can draw new york to seattle in conjuction with montreal to toronto. which is almost like a free win, lots of 6 point links, and 20+ point routes with a high degree of overlap.

I think you mean Montreal to Vancouver (not Toronto).

Indeed, midnight posting not a good idea