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New Diplomacy

Posted: 05 March 2023, 09:32
by RobertBr
With a new round of the league underway experienced players are getting a competitive taste of the new diplomacy system. There are two really big changes...

Turkey, Italy, and Spain, require 3 (rather than 2) political successes to activate

Activation's can only be played in most cases if the country they are played on are adjacent to an active country in the action

An activation from a conquest has to be played adjacent to the conquered country but can now be used to activate a country

The general feeling I am getting so far is that the opening Axis play should now be Denmark/Hungary, and the Hungary success should be used on Yugoslavia. Activating Yugoslavia allows the activation of other Balkan countries.

Spain is now in practice probably impossible to activate, so a true Med Lock would require its conquest. Italy is probably tougher but the Axis can hyper-focus on its activation. It will be interesting to see how the proportion of non-activations for Italy increases (this probably makes the Short opening much weaker). Turkey is still possible, but now difficult, it would be necessary to activate Bulgaria or Greece (the general preference would be to conquer Greece and activate Bulgaria).

Finland is now functionally impossible unless the Soviet player is foolish enough to take Karelia (almost always the Soviet players last choice).

I'd be interested to see reports of actual experiences.

Re: New Diplomacy

Posted: 05 March 2023, 18:25
by MarkDey
RobertBr wrote: 05 March 2023, 09:32 An activation from a conquest has to be played adjacent to the conquered country but can not be used to activate a country
That's actually another change from the prior rule set. A Restricted Political Success can be used to activate a country.

Re: New Diplomacy

Posted: 05 March 2023, 20:55
by RobertBr
MarkDey wrote: 05 March 2023, 18:25
RobertBr wrote: 05 March 2023, 09:32 An activation from a conquest has to be played adjacent to the conquered country but can not be used to activate a country
That's actually another change from the prior rule set. A Restricted Political Success can be used to activate a country.
Yeah, that is typo, 'not' should read 'now'. That change is likely to make some interesting edge cases in the late game.