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Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 13 July 2023, 14:03
by BackGa
It says in Arena rules that non elite players wouldn't have an appearing SAE score until they reach Elite but most of the current leaders aren't Elite.

"Qu'est-ce que la « ligue Élite » ?
Les joueurs les plus actifs pour un certain jeu (plus particulièrement les meilleurs joueurs) peuvent atteindre la ligue la plus prestigieuse : la ligue Élite.

Dans la ligue Élite, les règles sont différentes : chaque joueur a un Score d'Arène Élite (SAE), qui fonctionne exactement comme un 'rang ELO' classique. C'est ce SAE qui sert à définir votre rang mondial pour un jeu donné (ex. : 45ème) et vous pouvez tenter de devenir le champion du monde

Ce SAE est masqué tant que vous jouez dans les ligues inférieures, et est révélé quand vous entrez la ligue Élite. En gros, si vous battez de très bons joueurs au cours de cette saison, votre SAE sera élevé et si vous battez des joueurs faibles, votre SAE sera bas."

Would be nice to have it corrected asap and not wait ages as in recent Arena issues.


And don't forget me because I can't understand how this led to that. Or maybe BGA had identified the issue with the 0 points and corrected it, which would explain the the normally impossible gaps.

Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 13 July 2023, 15:31
by Remkar
I'm not seeing anything wrong right now.

All the top players are elite ranked and in proper order.

If things look wrong to you, can you screen shot it?

Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 13 July 2023, 17:47
by sepasch
It has been fixed right now.
I was jumping from platin to elite after loosing a game.
Now i am correctly back in diamond.

Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 14 July 2023, 01:31
by BackGa
sepasch wrote: 13 July 2023, 17:47 It has been fixed right now.
I was jumping from platin to elite after loosing a game.
Now i am correctly back in diamond.
Indeed you can't go down once in a league by BGA rules. Do you know other players in the same issue? They should indemnify youo estimating your loss and ad it to your SAE.

Another remark is about early arena stage and the impact of wins or losses on global results or ranking. Nothing new, we've experienced and accepted that a loss isn't caught back with one win (points wise) but you'll get points for your win. So why when a player is not Elite yet, it happens not to be rewarded stars or/and then SAE points or points ?

It happened to me at least 10 times in the last 12 hours. Why? What do you think?

Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 14 July 2023, 01:34
by BackGa
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Remkar wrote: 13 July 2023, 15:31 I'm not seeing anything wrong right now.

All the top players are elite ranked and in proper order.

If things look wrong to you, can you screen shot it?

Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 14 July 2023, 18:41
by Remkar
I see now. Something is wrong somewhere.

Question is, is it happening elsewhere (other games)? Or is it backgammon specific?

Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 14 July 2023, 19:38
by BackGa
Remkar wrote: 14 July 2023, 18:41 I see now. Something is wrong somewhere.

Question is, is it happening elsewhere (other games)? Or is it backgammon specific?
Indeed, I guess BGA devs could set a query filtering arenas per game, player, league and to recalculate all scores or something like that..

Because she is not an isolated case: (btw, I don't think plaers are responsible so this time, Lexy54 and overs, trust I am not pointing at you,
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Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 15 July 2023, 04:04
by BackGa
Remkar wrote: 14 July 2023, 18:41 I see now. Something is wrong somewhere.

Question is, is it happening elsewhere (other games)? Or is it backgammon specific?
And yet another one.... Gentle reminder about enjoying games vs trophies.
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Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 15 July 2023, 09:57
by euklid314
Perhaps I am missing something obvious but could you again explain where the problem is? I did not understand in the first post and I cannot see anything wrong in the screenshots (sorry again, but please tell me where I have to look).

Thanks, euklid

Re: Wrong ranking calculation in Arena - Elite/Non Elite

Posted: 15 July 2023, 13:38
by sepasch
The player jumped from Platin to Elite.