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Pilfering
Posted: 23 August 2023, 23:39
by lemonacid
So I know this is not the place to post bugs, thing is I don't know if this is a bug. I'm just now playing Ark Nova and my opponent played Japanese Macaque, which has Pilfering 2 effect, take 5 money or a random card from the both the player with the most conservation points or highest appeal. I was pilfered twice, it's that I am only ahead in reputation and not conservation points, we both had two points, so I didn't have the most. Any ideas?
Re: Pilfering
Posted: 24 August 2023, 03:55
by Remkar
lemonacid wrote: ↑23 August 2023, 23:39
So I know this is not the place to post bugs, thing is I don't know if this is a bug. I'm just now playing Ark Nova and my opponent played Japanese Macaque, which has Pilfering 2 effect, take 5 money or a random card from the both the player with the most conservation points or highest reputation. I was pilfered twice, it's that I am only ahead in reputation and not conservation points, we both had two points, so I didn't have the most. Any ideas?
If there's a tie, they get to choose from the tied players, so since you were tied for the lead in conservation, they were allowed to choose you.
Re: Pilfering
Posted: 24 August 2023, 05:56
by BenInJapan
Doesn't pilfering 2 mean exactly that he is supposed to be doing that action twice?
Re: Pilfering
Posted: 24 August 2023, 10:58
by cigma
lemonacid wrote: ↑23 August 2023, 23:39
my opponent played Japanese Macaque, which has Pilfering 2 effect, take 5 money or a random card from the both the player with the most conservation points or highest reputation.
I would like to note that Pilfering checks conservation points and appeal, not reputation.
Re: Pilfering
Posted: 24 August 2023, 22:24
by lemonacid
BenInJapan wrote: ↑24 August 2023, 05:56
Doesn't pilfering
2 mean exactly that he is supposed to be doing that action twice?
Yes absolutely, but if you read what I actually wrote, the issue is that the card says the player with the most conservation points but they and I were tied so I didn't have the most points.
Re: Pilfering
Posted: 24 August 2023, 22:26
by lemonacid
I would like to note that Pilfering checks conservation points and appeal, not reputation.
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you are right of course, but I think it was pretty obvious what I meant
Re: Pilfering
Posted: 26 August 2023, 15:02
by buu441
lemonacid wrote: ↑24 August 2023, 22:24
BenInJapan wrote: ↑24 August 2023, 05:56
Doesn't pilfering
2 mean exactly that he is supposed to be doing that action twice?
Yes absolutely, but if you read what I actually wrote, the issue is that the card says the player with the most conservation points but they and I were tied so I didn't have the most points.
Might be remembering wrong, but the rulebook also mentions that in case of ties, the player who played the card decides the tie.
Pilfering 2 with *zero* conservation points
Posted: 28 September 2023, 11:07
by randomronny974
It is true, that in case of a tie, you can choose a player and you can never choose yourself. But I honestly thought, you could use pilfering and constriction also against all players that do not have cp yet, meaning: No player moved ahead in conservation, all are at zero, so they are all "ahead" in the track. But when I tried to exploit this recently with the japanese macaque, the game would not let me use the cp pilfering. Not sure, if that's a bug, I did not find anything in the rule book. You could also interpret the all at zero situation as nobody is ahead.
Re: Pilfering 2 with *zero* conservation points
Posted: 28 September 2023, 18:30
by Tisaac
randomronny974 wrote: ↑28 September 2023, 11:07
It is true, that in case of a tie, you can choose a player and you can never choose yourself. But I honestly thought, you could use pilfering and constriction also against all players that do not have cp yet, meaning: No player moved ahead in conservation, all are at zero, so they are all "ahead" in the track. But when I tried to exploit this recently with the japanese macaque, the game would not let me use the cp pilfering. Not sure, if that's a bug, I did not find anything in the rule book. You could also interpret the all at zero situation as nobody is ahead.
Or probably another case of quarantine lab ? Hard to say without more info / a screenshot
Re: Pilfering
Posted: 28 September 2023, 23:25
by randomronny974
No, cant be quarantine lab, because I got a card from the attraction track. I was confused, since it worked with constriction recently iirc and hence expected to get two cards from opp (or the other options, but opp didn't have enough money to pay). I will add a screenshot when I am on my computer next time.